"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

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Well done, you have a great face and really nice teeth. You even look happier and more fun to be around in the second picture
Yeah, Sponty looks like a great guy to be around in the 2nd shot, it wasn't just his looks that improved. Really great job and I hope he keeps going and keeps it up, I'm feeling uplifted just by seeing his demeanor in the pic haha.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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We have a similar body structure, I’m a tad more lean. I wouldn’t think you’d have a problem with the ladies in this picture, you look very strong. How tall are you?
5 11 was in a ltr at the time so idk ,but its way easier right now a bit smaller a lower bf.

I use to do some heavy weight low rep training ever hear of Sheiko trainings?
Very good for size imo

My brother at about same size at the time but 6 2 women were throwing themself at him.

Height was never a problem for me, but i could see the difference with my taller brother.

This is me now at 39 20200214_140351.jpg
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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5 11 was in a ltr at the time so idk ,but its way easier right now a bit smaller a lower bf.

I use to do some heavy weight low rep training ever hear of Sheiko trainings?
Very good for size imo

My brother at about same size at the time but 6 2 women were throwing themself at him.

Height was never a problem for me, but i could see the difference with my taller brother.

This is me now at 39 View attachment 3484
Man, you are very nice looking man. I hope I look that good at 39. Your chest is impeccable. Never heard of sheiko training but I also achieved my physique with a lot of low rep high weight.
405 x 5 deadlifts x 3
315 x 5 bench etc
I like the way you look with stubble as well.

what are your target dating ranges? I bet you’d clean up with 25-32 year olds.
 

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You guys are all good looking dudes. If you’re having trouble with OLD, I’d say it’s picture quality more than how you look. Try a professional photographer. Get the lighting and things right. It will help a lot.
 

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Something like this 44C9959B-0E0A-4F20-8394-46B0B1568E5E.jpeg
I tried, but im not a stud like the fine man pictured!

I rarely use a razor, electric for trim and shave... I always have stubble. The ladies love getting the nipples tickled by the 'stach and then roughed up from the stubble. Its a winning combo.
 

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Man, you are very nice looking man. I hope I look that good at 39. Your chest is impeccable. Never heard of sheiko training but I also achieved my physique with a lot of low rep high weight.
405 x 5 deadlifts x 3
315 x 5 bench etc
I like the way you look with stubble as well.

what are your target dating ranges? I bet you’d clean up with 25-32 year olds.
Bench has always been my weakness i got to 325 x1, 315 x3 was probably.my max.

Did 495x1 squat and 535 x1 on dead when i was at my best right now im lower
Dont have as much time for the gym.

Took that pic today after trimming my beard,
I dont like it that short. Usualy its longer.

Im not that much of a dj, so i mostly go after women in my social circle.
But i often see some ioi when going out, i went as low as 29 last year. Been seeing a 36 y for a few month now, will see how things goes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You guys are all good looking dudes. If you’re having trouble with OLD, I’d say it’s picture quality more than how you look. Try a professional photographer. Get the lighting and things right. It will help a lot.
I feel like I despise OLD too much by now to do that even if it would work, my brain has been conditioned against it. I'll stick to real life, whether that makes me celibate or not.

One of the very few girls I've met off of OLD did say she was nervous when we first met because I looked better than my pictures. But I think the first two pics I posted in this thread are pretty good, and those are the ones I used most recently when I still got fvck all. If that's not good enough for their royal tastes, I'd rather just not bother than feed their out of control narcissism. Chad can have them, it's OK. Pvssy isn't worth spending energy dealing with that shyt over just focusing on my own course.
 
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@zekko when you post, I picture a young Mr Rogers for some reason. That’s just my mental image of you
The sniper version? Nope, it's totally old Mr. Rogers here.

Maybe I should change my avatar...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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That low bf is most likely all dedication.
Yea that’s 100% clean eating.. protein and veggies & no alcohol .. doesn’t look like roids. That’s a man with superhuman self control also good genes.
 

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i wish i could workout, or lift, or run...

the only physical things I can really do is walk/hike, swim, bike and fvck
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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