LongDrinkofWater
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Just don't let her find it...
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
www.bristollair.comMacAvoy said:\ O /, I like your idea, great to have an aresenal you can look to when your running dry. However how can I learn more about what the items on your cheat sheet are?
Things like
Who lies more
two part kiss opener
The lying game,
fvck-marry-kill
strawberry fields
and so on
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Some people need more than Nature. If everyone could just go out and do it, than we wouldn't need a sight.B4IFURU18? said:OPENERS ARE SO 1999. Just be human, and touch on normal things that are going on around you. Nuff of this canned bull****. It's lame and robotic.
zerocelcius said:Some people need more than Nature. If everyone could just go out and do it, than we wouldn't need a sight.
PLUS some people like the PUA stuff. To each their own.
All solid points, but I think you're mistaking the goal (DJ or PUA) with the learning process.B4IFURU18? said:I understand that, but what embodies a PUA is to be pure in mind. You learn this through practice. You shouldn't need canned openers. It's just like Barry Bonds shouldn't need to use steroids to accomplish his goals.
A true PUA (god I hate this ****ing term) constantly works on bettering himself by being a true conversationalist, not a robot who studies, and rips off openers that some dude named Mystery came up with. That's unoriginal and lame as hell.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
That is the sad hard truth. We all need to start somewhere. Natural Style is going to come. As long as you try.B4IFURU18? said:zerocelcius -
Good post. I think people here are in need of a lot more help than I initially thought. I just see a lot of guys here that are so twisted and confused. I hate to see them turn into some programmed robot that's not congruent with their self.
I guess if it takes canned openers to build rapport, and in turn build confidence, use them. Just don't rely on them to get you laid. You must exude natural confidence and real interest.
Good luck men!
zerocelcius said:IF you don't know most of these you should search their names/titles on here or read some books.
DJ BIBLE – Various DJ’s
Tips – Various DJ’s
Art of Seduction - by Robert Greene
Mystery Method - by Mystery, Lovedrop, and Neil Strauss
The Game - by Neil Strauss
43 Laws - by Robert Greene
Etc.
I saw some I don't know. Some were Original stuff so look who posted it and PM them and maybe they will explain it or even post it.
Great Post!
HAHAzerocelcius said:I stand corrected.
Thank you.
48 Laws - by Robert Greene
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.