LongDrinkofWater
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Just don't let her find it...
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
www.bristollair.comMacAvoy said:\ O /, I like your idea, great to have an aresenal you can look to when your running dry. However how can I learn more about what the items on your cheat sheet are?
Things like
Who lies more
two part kiss opener
The lying game,
fvck-marry-kill
strawberry fields
and so on
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Some people need more than Nature. If everyone could just go out and do it, than we wouldn't need a sight.B4IFURU18? said:OPENERS ARE SO 1999. Just be human, and touch on normal things that are going on around you. Nuff of this canned bull****. It's lame and robotic.
zerocelcius said:Some people need more than Nature. If everyone could just go out and do it, than we wouldn't need a sight.
PLUS some people like the PUA stuff. To each their own.
All solid points, but I think you're mistaking the goal (DJ or PUA) with the learning process.B4IFURU18? said:I understand that, but what embodies a PUA is to be pure in mind. You learn this through practice. You shouldn't need canned openers. It's just like Barry Bonds shouldn't need to use steroids to accomplish his goals.
A true PUA (god I hate this ****ing term) constantly works on bettering himself by being a true conversationalist, not a robot who studies, and rips off openers that some dude named Mystery came up with. That's unoriginal and lame as hell.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That is the sad hard truth. We all need to start somewhere. Natural Style is going to come. As long as you try.B4IFURU18? said:zerocelcius -
Good post. I think people here are in need of a lot more help than I initially thought. I just see a lot of guys here that are so twisted and confused. I hate to see them turn into some programmed robot that's not congruent with their self.
I guess if it takes canned openers to build rapport, and in turn build confidence, use them. Just don't rely on them to get you laid. You must exude natural confidence and real interest.
Good luck men!
zerocelcius said:IF you don't know most of these you should search their names/titles on here or read some books.
DJ BIBLE – Various DJ’s
Tips – Various DJ’s
Art of Seduction - by Robert Greene
Mystery Method - by Mystery, Lovedrop, and Neil Strauss
The Game - by Neil Strauss
43 Laws - by Robert Greene
Etc.
I saw some I don't know. Some were Original stuff so look who posted it and PM them and maybe they will explain it or even post it.
Great Post!
HAHAzerocelcius said:I stand corrected.
Thank you.
48 Laws - by Robert Greene
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.