"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Calling women you meet online

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This one would be a one-time LTD = long distance lay
call her if you expect to meet her. (ie fu*k her)

If youre not much interested in, dont call her and do what you have to do.

as Fd' said...that's too much brainstorming (and presurizing yourself) for a HYPOTHETIC lay

cheers
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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cedd said:
call her if you expect to meet her. (ie fu*k her)

If youre not much interested in, dont call her and do what you have to do.

as Fd' said...that's too much brainstorming (and presurizing yourself) for a HYPOTHETIC lay

cheers
When would you call? A day or two prior to when I'm leaving or the day I want to hook up?
 

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armadon said:
Jesus ****ing christ just call the damn chick
But he has to do it at just the right time, a second or two off and it could be the fate of the entire world if not the universe!!! :nervous:
 

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When would you call? A day or two prior to when I'm leaving or the day I want to hook up?
Call her when youre done with your work.
Say something like "I'm downtown, in a wonderful lounge bar, would you like to join me ?"

If she's ok to meet you, great! Game her.
If she doesnt want to, no regret. Have a drink, talk to people and get a good night of sleep at your hotel.

cheers
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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armstrong said:
Does anyone have any suggestions for calling a woman for the first time who you've been chatting with online? I've done it a few times and they can be pretty awkward because there's no real rapport you have with the person, outside of chatting online.
Are you projecting awkwardness?

Talk to her like you would talk to your kid sister's goofy friends.
 
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