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Everybody knows Cuba is a shiethole that doesn't practice democracy.

The citizens there has no choice nor freedom.

But in America you do.

U r free to choose which government you want.

That government is the expression of the peoples will.

Having strict gun laws but still allowing gun ownership doesn't help much does it? You already admit as much.

Having no guns like in many other countries not only helps alot but they also have almost ZERO fatalities due to gun violence.
And, in England, where there are strict gun laws, they have psychopathic migrants(forced upon them by the EU...to bring this thread back on topic), riding nuts-to-butts on scooters, and slashing and splashing the natives, and raping women in their own doorways, which could be discouraged by arming the natives...not by simply deputizing more RESPONDERS, who do nothing but accuse the natives of "racism," for daring to complain.
 
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And, in England where there are strict gun laws, they have psychopathic migrants(forced upon them by the EU...to bring this thread back on topic), riding nuts-to-butts on scooters, and slashing and splashing the natives, and raping women in their own doorways, which could be discouraged by arming the natives...not by simply deputizing more RESPONDERS, who do nothing but accuse the natives of "racism," for daring to complain.
If you arm a population to deal with those migrants you create a whole set of other problems.

It is not a sustainable solution.

A more sustainable solution is stop bringing in low end migrants or as being done below;

In some Asian countries, for centuries there's always many movement of migrants, mostly the lowest of the low but they have in place draconian measures that quietly surpresses them into hiding a quite life - no schooling, constant deportation, constant visits by the police (who enjoys getting bribes), etc, you name it - it's done just to surpress em all.

But at the same time there's also a way out, if their local employer level up those migrants, meaning not only provide them with work permits but also educate them with recognised qualifications, this ensures those hard-working, clean, with roughly good virtues can attain permanent residency and even citizenship in their host country.

While the rest who can't cut it will be continously surpressed, too afraid to even cause much of a problem.

Meanwhile the citizens live a relatively safe environment without needing guns.
 

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If you arm a population to deal with those migrants you create a whole set of other problems.

It is not a sustainable solution.

A more sustainable solution is stop bringing in low end migrants or as being done below;

In some Asian countries, for centuries there's always many movement of migrants, mostly the lowest of the low but they have in place draconian measures that quietly surpresses them into hiding a quite life - no schooling, constant deportation, constant visits by the police (who enjoys getting bribes), etc, you name it - it's done just to surpress em all.

But at the same time there's also a way out, if their local employer level up those migrants, meaning not only provide them with work permits but also educate them with recognised qualifications, this ensures those hard-working, clean, with roughly good virtues can attain permanent residency and even citizenship in their host country.

While the rest who can't cut it will be continously surpressed, too afraid to even cause much of a problem.

Meanwhile the citizens live a relatively safe environment without needing guns.
Yeah, well, I'm more of a survival-of-the-fittest kinda guy, anyway; so, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to an all out shootout, to cull the herd of the most miscreant elements...but, that's just me.

The kinder and gentler we get with the freaks, the more the freaks breed like rats. And, just as rats are never content to live among themselves, the freaks have an annoying tendency to infest civilized society. Time for some Old West Justice in Europe?

But, hey, I'm just an American "gun nut"; so, what do I know about it...
 
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Yeah, well, I'm more of a survival-of-the-fittest kinda guy, anyway; so, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to an all out shootout, to cull the herd of the most miscreant elements...but, that's just me.

The kinder and gentler we get with the freaks, the more the freaks breed like rats. And, just as rats are never content to live among themselves, the freaks have an annoying tendency to infest civilized society. Time for some Old West Justice in Europe?

But, hey, I'm just an American "gun nut"; so, what do I know about it...
I trust you realise that solutions that's reflective of the seasonal flavour of the masses doesn't actually yield sustainable long term solutions nor benefits.

A man must always think with profits to be had in his mind.

How does culling a herd of humans profitable to you or ur immediate surroundings, that's a question you should ask urself.
 

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How does culling a herd of humans profitable to you or ur immediate surroundings, that's a question you should ask urself.
Too many humans on the planet is resulting in mass ecocide via deforestation, climate change and overfishing/hunting. So there's that.
 
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Gun violence in America mostly takes place in urban areas and the vast majority of shootings are black on black. Many of these areas already have strict gun laws.

It's like EyeB said, unless you can make all guns disappear in an instant, it makes sense for us to carry for our own protection.

Also, nobody has mentioned the benefits of women being able to carry guns. They can't exactly go hand-to-hand with potential rapists etc. So unless you plan on making them have a male chaperone, like some countries...
 

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Gun violence in America mostly takes place in urban areas and the vast majority of shootings are black on black. Many of these areas already have strict gun laws.

It's like EyeB said, unless you can make all guns disappear in an instant, it makes sense for us to carry for our own protection.

Also, nobody has mentioned the benefits of women being able to carry guns. They can't exactly go hand-to-hand with potential rapists etc. So unless you plan on making them have a male chaperone, like some countries...
That's exactly what I meant, banning guns = getting rid of all ownership of it.

A man has no business carrying it in cities unless he's law enforcement.

As for rape, it'll happen regardless. Has not been reduced in any American cities.
 

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@Spaz the U.S. cities with the highest rates of murder and gun violence are the once with the strictest gun laws. The reason why an armed man is a free man is because he can protect himself , his property, his loved once and his freedoms. I am originally from Cuba, when the socialists first took over they confiscated all firearms. This made it impossible for anyone that didn't agree with the government to do anything about it, remember only the government had guns. When the socialists started arresting, torturing, and disappearing anyone who didn't agree with them their was nothing that could be done. The reason why dictators such as fidel castro and adolf hitler take the guns away is so that they can't be opposed.
False. New York City is the safest large city in North America. Try bringing a gun here.

All the states with strict gun laws have lower incidents of gun homicides, domestic homicides, and suicides.
 
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Wrong. The original intent was to put down slave revolts, as the master was always thoroughly outnumbered.
Gotta always come back to race. SMH.

Yeah, because only slave massuhs need guns, right? I mean, without slavery, there's no gang rapes, home invasions, murders, muggings, robberies, etc.? In fact, slavery is the only human atrocity that ever occurred, and it only occurred to Africans, and not to anyone else, ever...right? And, even if it did happen to every other race, since the beginning of time, it was much, much worse when it happened to Black people...or at least when White people did it to Black people, it was the worst human atrocity E V E R!! Right? I mean, when Black people were enslaving, raping, castrating, and selling EACH OTHER, that was no biggy...just a fam thang?

Let that bulls hit go, man. It makes you sound stupid, and I know you aren't. So, grow the f uck up.
 

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False. New York City is the safest large city in North America. Try bringing a gun here.

All the states with strict gun laws have lower incidents of gun homicides, domestic homicides, and suicides.
That must be because of Stop-n-Frisk??
 
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I trust you realise that solutions that's reflective of the seasonal flavour of the masses doesn't actually yield sustainable long term solutions nor benefits.

A man must always think with profits to be had in his mind.

How does culling a herd of humans profitable to you or ur immediate surroundings, that's a question you should ask urself.
That was supposed to be a not-entirely-serious mic drop, to discourage further derailing of what is supposed to be a congratulatory thread, soluting the Brits on their newly reclaimed national independence.

Don't get me wrong. I have plenty of passionate and evolved opinions on the matter of gun rights and personal protection, but it isn't really my place to dictate to Brits how they should govern their nation, since I'm not a Brit and this thread is supposed to be about them.

If someone cares to start a different thread on this topic, I'm happy to throw down, over there.

In the meantime, congratulations, again, Brits!!!
 

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That's exactly what I meant, banning guns = getting rid of all ownership of it.

A man has no business carrying it in cities unless he's law enforcement.

As for rape, it'll happen regardless. Has not been reduced in any American cities.
Banning guns gets rid of all legal ownership. It won't stop criminals from obtaining guns.

I fail to see the problem with a law-abiding citizen carrying a gun in the city.

And rapes will continue to occur, that's why women should be able to protect themselves.
 
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Wrong. The original intent was to put down slave revolts, as the master was always thoroughly outnumbered.
I speak of the intent for what weaponry they should have.

Not of the intent for owning the weapons.

But if you wish to state that is the reason for the right to bear arms what do you have to support that argument?
 

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False. New York City is the safest large city in North America. Try bringing a gun here.

All the states with strict gun laws have lower incidents of gun homicides, domestic homicides, and suicides.
All Nation States with gun owenrship banned also do not fear their citizens.

Government has killed more than any other entity in history and yet you advocate they should control the guns.......
 

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Banning guns gets rid of all legal ownership. It won't stop criminals from obtaining guns.

I fail to see the problem with a law-abiding citizen carrying a gun in the city.

And rapes will continue to occur, that's why women should be able to protect themselves.
Of course it won't stop criminals from obtaining guns.

But it will significantly reduce it.

And I've not heard of criminals shooting up school kids yet...
 

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That was supposed to be a not-entirely-serious mic drop, to discourage further derailing of what is supposed to be a congratulatory thread, soluting the Brits on their newly reclaimed national independence.

Don't get me wrong. I have plenty of passionate and evolved opinions on the matter of gun rights and personal protection, but it isn't really my place to dictate to Brits how they should govern their nation, since I'm not a Brit and this thread is supposed to be about them.

If someone cares to start a different thread on this topic, I'm happy to throw down, over there.

In the meantime, congratulations, again, Brits!!!
Consider it as an evolution of the thread.
 

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I speak of the intent for what weaponry they should have.

Not of the intent for owning the weapons.

But if you wish to state that is the reason for the right to bear arms what do you have to support that argument?
None.

The arguments for and against each of the original 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights are contained in 'The Federalist Papers' and 'The Anti-federalist Papers', but almost no-one bothers to actually read them.

Instead, we are treated to nonsense explanations of the 3/5 compromise, as a supposedly dehumanizing effort by Southern slave-owners, when they actually wanted their slaves to be counted 100% towards representation, instead of 60%, because it would give the South greater representation in Congress and in the electoral college. Heck, the South would have counted their slaves as 5/3, if the North would've let them get away with it. Instead, the North argued that slaves should count as 0% toward representation, and they compromised on 3/5.

We keep hearing stupid s hit, though, because people don't bother to think and read.
 
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