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You twist every discussion to fit your racism narrative, even discussions that had nothing to do with race.

I think it's safe to assume that most members (and society in general) have developed apathy towards these racism accusations because people on the left keep crying wolf....it's becoming a comedy routine at this point.....
The irony of EBR's position is that a better argument could be made that the American history of gun control has its roots in racism; whereas the 2nd Amendment, universally applied, makes men more equal:


So, there ya go, EBR. If you must have a racist worldview, at least this one will make you look less like a sucker....of the DemonKKKrap slavery/gun control party.
 

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The irony of EBR's position is that a better argument could be made that the American history of gun control has its roots in racism; whereas the 2nd Amendment, universally applied, makes men more equal:


So, there ya go, EBR. If you must have a racist would view, at least this one will make you look less like a sucker.
This is a solid post and I wish i had researched this angle more....

....yes you're right. Gun control can be viewed as a form of racism as it seeks to strip the right to self-defense from vulnerable communities...
 

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Right to party? We fought for it back in '86.
LOL, thats right number 2.

Everybody has the God given right to BE. To exist. To self-preservation.

Existing is not a crime. Denying one the ability to defend oneself is a DIRECT VIOLATION to the right of self-preservation. The right that we all have.
 
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You twist every discussion to fit your racism narrative, even discussions that had nothing to do with race.

I think it's safe to assume that most members (and society in general) have developed apathy towards these racism accusations because people on the left keep crying wolf....it's becoming a comedy routine at this point.....
Who said anything about race?

Lean some base American History. The Brits were offering freedom to escaped slaves during the revolutionary war if they fought on behalf of the Brits. The right to bear arms was about slavery, specifically patrols (which operated as light militia) used to hunt escaped slaves. Facts don’t give a damn about your discomfort or feelings.
 

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None.

The arguments for and against each of the original 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights are contained in 'The Federalist Papers' and 'The Anti-federalist Papers', but almost no-one bothers to actually read them.

Instead, we are treated to nonsense explanations of the 3/5 compromise, as a supposedly dehumanizing effort by Southern slave-owners, when they actually wanted their slaves to be counted 100% towards representation, instead of 60%, because it would give the South greater representation in Congress and in the electoral college. Heck, the South would have counted their slaves as 5/3, if the North would've let them get away with it. Instead, the North argued that slaves should count as 0% toward representation, and they compromised on 3/5.

We keep hearing stupid s hit, though, because people don't bother to think and read.
This level of ignorance it’s maddening. The south only wanted to count slaves as people as it pertained to representation. Slaves were strictly considered property in every other sense. Don’t try to push your pro-slavery propaganda.
 

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The discussion presented by the the anti-White people is always implicitly stating that ALL Whites owned slaves.

This is what they want everyone to believe and it is ridiculous fiction. And even if it were true, the entire planet and every race has enslaved every other race. But Whites and White nations were the first to free them all.
Pathetic. Look at this validation-seeking rationalization for owning other human beings.
 

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Pathetic. Look at this validation-seeking rationalization for owning other human beings.
See?

This reply is premised on the fallacy that only Whites had slaves.

Blacks had slaves and slavery still exists today.....but not in White countries.
 
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Who said anything about race?

Lean some base American History. The Brits were offering freedom to escaped slaves during the revolutionary war if they fought on behalf of the Brits. The right to bear arms was about slavery, specifically patrols (which operated as light militia) used to hunt escaped slaves. Facts don’t give a damn about your discomfort or feelings.
What proof do you have that the right to bear arms was based on slavery?
 

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@EyeBRollin you are clearly a racist. A racist brings race into every single conversation as you do. A racist also brings dumb craap into conversations like in the thread where I told you that I am Latino and you kept badgering me about what box I checked on when I fill out forms, by the way just to make you happy numbnuts I check the box for Latino/Hispanic. Also guess what since you bring up slavery it was Africans who sold other Africans into slavery. There were also black slave owners in America. As a matter of fact the court case that made slavery legal in the colonies that eventually became America was a case between a black plantation owner named Anthony Johnson and one of his former black indentured servants named John Casor. The colonial court ruled in favor of Johnson who claimed that Casor was his property. This court case set the precedent that one human being could own another human being who didn't owe him money and had no contractual obligations to him, therefor it legalized slavery. You can wallow in your ignorance all you want at the end of the day you are still going to be an angry ignorant numbnuts loser.
 

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Who said anything about race?

Lean some base American History. The Brits were offering freedom to escaped slaves during the revolutionary war if they fought on behalf of the Brits. The right to bear arms was about slavery, specifically patrols (which operated as light militia) used to hunt escaped slaves. Facts don’t give a damn about your discomfort or feelings.
This is the comedy routine that I'm referring to - you twist every conversation into a racism narrative and then try to deny it...
 
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@EyeBRollin you are clearly a racist. A racist brings race into every single conversation as you do. A racist also brings dumb craap into conversations like in the thread where I told you that I am Latino and you kept badgering me about what box I checked on when I fill out forms, by the way just to make you happy numbnuts I check the box for Latino/Hispanic. Also guess what since you bring up slavery it was Africans who sold other Africans into slavery. There were also black slave owners in America. As a matter of fact the court case that made slavery legal in the colonies that eventually became America was a case between a black plantation owner named Anthony Johnson and one of his former black indentured servants named John Casor. The colonial court ruled in favor of Johnson who claimed that Casor was his property. This court case set the precedent that one human being could own another human being who didn't owe him money and had no contractual obligations to him, therefor it legalized slavery. You can wallow in your ignorance all you want at the end of the day you are still going to be an angry ignorant numbnuts loser.
Cry me a river.

Cite the post in this thread where I mentioned race. I'll wait for it.
 

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Well, speaking of evolution, real Men don't depend on and wait for other men to defend them, as if they were helpless women and children.

Your entire argument seems to be that YOU don't require the tools to protect yourself, because other men will protect and rescue you from danger.
Ive been polite to you in this discussion here out of respect and yet you come up with these statement.

My entire argument is abt the needless deaths that occurs in urban areas due to the availability of guns and the general reduction re quality of life there.

I've already pointed out that other countries has almost zero deaths due to gun related violence - that's fact.

Meanwhile you're only using emotions that fuels ur beliefs - doesn't even sound manly, more like fearful.
 

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Sounds to me like Spaz has the resources to pay for shyt so he doesn't have to do everything himself. Turns out, in Singapore, you get good bang for your buck. Donald Trump doesn't walk around with a gun. Think about it.

If it's about assuming the onus of self-defense, then we don't need immigration laws or police or the military. That's just other men protecting us. I've read enough libertardian literature and I know that it's not practical, though it's an honorable notion.

Crime can't be eliminated 100% but it can be minimized drastically. Right now America sits at the bottom with many third world shytholes in number of gun related deaths per capita. South Africa, Mexico, and Nicaragua have fewer. Meanwhile other countries have far lower violent crime rates without a massively armed public. The tradeoff is they're less free to own a firearm, but more free to walk around day and night, man or woman. Everything has a cost.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have all the answers and I respect you guys who are responsible gun owners. If I lived in in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming I'd probably own a firearm. Too many bears and it takes too long for the cops to respond if you're in the country. In that case I'd bear the cost of owning a weapon, maybe even illegally.

Actually I think in the U.S. this stuff should be decided provincially. For instance New York has a policy that makes sense for New York but not for Wyoming. Most countries aren't as big and diverse as the U.S. This should be a municipal or state decision at most, but the 2nd Amendment exists so there you go.
It's true that I have resources - armed men that guards what belongs to me.

There's only a need to use them when I'm in places where the host govt has no power.

Meanwhile in places like Singapore, Seoul, Kuala Lumpur, Stockholm, Sydney and Tokyo, you could walk in relative safety.

And in those places, those established criminal gangs operating with thousands of members know its foolish to carry guns.

But when in America, those very same gangs members are carrying guns.
 

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This level of ignorance it’s maddening. The south only wanted to count slaves as people as it pertained to representation. Slaves were strictly considered property in every other sense. Don’t try to push your pro-slavery propaganda.
Pro-slavery propaganda? Stop being obtuse, and learn to read. I simply pointed out the stupidity of the popular 3/5 compromise argument, and you simply can't handle facts. I said EXACTLY that the South's position on counting slaves as 100% was based ENTIRELY on representation.

Don't twist my words, you shameless liar. If you find the truth uncomfortably unmasking, that's YOUR problem, not mine. You're the hypocrite who has to make everything about race, not me. So, grow up, junior, and let go of those excuses you still carry around, like a pacifier.

Remember, after all, that women and children couldn't vote, either, yet both were counted 100%. That was the basis of the South's position of slaves counting toward representation, not that they should be able to vote, but simply that they were people who lived in the district. Try reading the actual language of the document you denigrate, before giving credence to race-baiting arguments that make you look like a cretin.
 

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My entire argument is abt the needless deaths that occurs in urban areas due to the availability of guns and the general reduction re quality of life there.
Weapons obtained for the purposes of committing crimes are rarely obtained legally, and more often than not, the perpetrators of those crimes are already legally prohibited from possessing a weapon. The problem isn't the law, but the enforcement.

In fact, we recently got rid of a president who got caught running illegal firearms(making them available to street thugs in America). This was the same president who encouraged massive race riots and city burnings, the president whom people like EBR considered "a god."

That was the same president, BTW, who pushed for Gun Control, at every opportunity.
 
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