"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Bit of a situation.

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Long time member returning here. So I’m in a bit of a situation here, and I thought I’d run it past you guys, hopefully get an informed opinion on how I should handle it.

So I met this girl. A real nice girl. Checks all the boxes. Humble,family oriented, and hot in the specific way that appeals to me. In short, girlfriend material, not a common potential lay. So a couple of weeks ago, I got into a situation with a girl who has considerable proximity with her friend group. I was banging her in public at some party, and long story short, we got arrested. Spent the night in jail.

I am concerned that this might have reached the potential girlfriend, and I am concerned that it might derail my efforts with her.

I am not really concerned about people knowing what happened, I am mainly concerned that it will hamper my efforts with said nice girl.

What are your thoughts? Should I play it cool and proceed like nothing’s going on? Or should I preempt the whole thing and tell her?(perhaps it would be better if she heard it from me)

I should also probably mention that this all went down before me and her ever formally met or spoke,but I’d seen her around frequently.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t preemptively bring it up or explain myself over something that happened before you two even formally met.

You’re giving this incident more importance than it may actually have. If she hasn’t heard about it, there’s no reason to introduce it yourself. If she has, let her decide whether it’s worth asking you about.

Sometimes drawing attention to something only gives it more significance than it deserves. Don’t pick at a scab that might otherwise heal on its own.
 

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Don't feel or act guilty about it because you will make yourself more guilty in her mind then you need to be. Be completely honest about it. It's something that happened some time ago and you've moved on. If she ever brings it up in the future, just say "yeah that happened x years ago but I'm with you now."
 

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If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t preemptively bring it up or explain myself over something that happened before you two even formally met.

You’re giving this incident more importance than it may actually have. If she hasn’t heard about it, there’s no reason to introduce it yourself. If she has, let her decide whether it’s worth asking you about.

Sometimes drawing attention to something only gives it more significance than it deserves. Don’t pick at a scab that might otherwise heal on its own.
I hear you, however, I think that there is a significant chance that she knows or has heard, and very recently at that. I suspect so because someone asked someone I know about it.

And things were going quite well with me and her.
Don't feel or act guilty about it because you will make yourself more guilty in her mind then you need to be. Be completely honest about it. It's something that happened some time ago and you've moved on. If she ever brings it up in the future, just say "yeah that happened x years ago but I'm with you now."
I don’t feel guilty about it really,just concerned that it might affect my plans. And it didn’t happen years ago,it happened about three weeks ago.
 

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I was banging her in public at some party, and long story short, we got arrested. Spent the night in jail
Hey @Grounded eagle , I am female and your b***ing another girl before you met me would not bother me.

For me and perhaps her, it would depend on what it was you got arrested for.

Do you feel comfortable sharing that?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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My advice; remain single and you won't have to answer to NO ONE.
 

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Give it time OP. Let the incident get pushed to the back of the news cycle and moreoever get over your oneitits. Try back in 6 months if the opportunity presents itself.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Well that certainly is a situation.

My advice... do nothing, say nothing. It's really not any of her business what you do with other women, since you aren't in a committed relationship. If it gets back the girl you are interested in... well don't be surprised if a 'public nuisance' arrest, having sex in public with another woman, ends things. If that happens, let it go.

In today's digital age, it's almost impossible to hide anything, so I were you I would assume she will find out eventually.
 

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I hear you, however, I think that there is a significant chance that she knows or has heard, and very recently at that. I suspect so because someone asked someone I know about it.

And things were going quite well with me and her.

I don’t feel guilty about it really,just concerned that it might affect my plans. And it didn’t happen years ago,it happened about three weeks ago.
Well, unfortunately for you, there are three possibilities here: “you don’t have all your ducks lined up in a row,” meaning you don’t have your **** together; or three weeks is too soon to know she’s girlfriend material; or you simply cannot negotiate attraction, and this incident may have changed how she sees you.

If you want to “fix” things, ask her out, show her a good time and a great night, and see where things go.

Good luck!


PS:There could be a bunch of reasons why she has taken a step back. This could be one of them, but it could also not be the reason. The reality is that you barely know her, so you can’t make that assessment yet.
 
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I am concerned that this might have reached the potential girlfriend, and I am concerned that it might derail my efforts with her.
It all depends on her character and morals, but if she's a bit introverted and timid, she might look up to someone with this much bravado. Have you considered that this might actually be a good thing?

Continue as normal, don't bring it up.
If she asks about it be honest.
If it is a deal-breaker for her it's too late now.
 

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It all depends on her character and morals, but if she's a bit introverted and timid, she might look up to someone with this much bravado. Have you considered that this might actually be a good thing?

Continue as normal, don't bring it up.
If she asks about it be honest.
If it is a deal-breaker for her it's too late now.
Yeah I did consider that it might be a positive somehow. Also considered that it might be best to ignore it and only bring it up if she does.

And yeah,if it’s a deal breaker, got nothing to do but walk. I’m okay with that.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

How is the interaction with "nice girl" going? You really don't directly mention if she is resonding the same as before or not....

If you like "nice girl", you ask her out. As long as she says yes, you proceed as before. This other thing is a distraction. You do not need to say anything. If she asks you directly, you say, yes, well, that was a little bit of a crazy night, and drive on like No. Big. Deal.

My husband has all sorts of crazy stories. I think they are for the most part, pretty funny.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

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You're treating this like a PR crisis when you haven't even started dating her yet. Take a breath. You were single, and this happened before you two met. Get to know her normally, but understand that she might have questions or opinions if she hears about it. You can't control what she thinks, only how honestly you handle it.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

How is the interaction with "nice girl" going? You really don't directly mention if she is resonding the same as before or not....

If you like "nice girl", you ask her out. As long as she says yes, you proceed as before. This other thing is a distraction. You do not need to say anything. If she asks you directly, you say, yes, well, that was a little bit of a crazy night, and drive on like No. Big. Deal.

My husband has all sorts of crazy stories. I think they are for the most part, pretty funny.
So we’ve been talking and it’s been going well actually. Last conversation was a few hours ago, and I am mostly happy with how it went. We got some stuff scheduled for tomorrow (an activity date)
I don’t think she knows about my incident, or if she does it’s not a big deal to her. At least, she hasn’t brought it up if she does know.
 

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I wouldn’t worry about the arrest but it is concerning that you are putting this girl on a pedestal
 
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