"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Better to Call or txt when just wanting to be friends
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
iLoveCookies
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If you want to be friends and then make a move. Well, good luck its hard, its really, you have to have a some sort of redeeming value or this "friend" has always had it in for you as something else
If you want to be friends because you want to take advantage of something (ie: her hot friends) first off make sure that this " friend" doesnt have it in for you, otherwise she will be the catalyst in your destruction.
Well I would mix it up, super small talk over text and real plans over phone ie
Text: hey, what are you doing, nothing, what do you have planned, oh i am going to a party, I will call you when I figure out the details
Call: hey I am going at this and this time to this and this place, do you want me to drive blah blah blah, yada yada yada
brucevangeorge
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That works too. But be wary though. It might signal disinterest and you will NEVER become friends.
EVER.
Oh i asked her out a couple of times and she doesnt really seem to enthustiastic to tell me when she is free, I always ask and she is always busy. So I am fed up with it, and I just want to forget about taking her out and I want her to know that.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
wheelin&dealin
Master Don Juan
ssj245 said:But i am pretty pissed about her playing games with me and not being straight foward.
Being straight forward is sissy sh*t! You gain power by not letting others know your true intentions...
wow... I should write a book
brucevangeorge
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Explain further. I know you should not be straight forward about certain things like "I want to bang you at the table right now" but.... ?wheelin&dealin said:Being straight forward is sissy sh*t! You gain power by not letting others know your true intentions...
wow... I should write a book
How is being straightforward sissy?
Well some power she wields cuz Im pissed and I dont care about her anymore. Being straight forward about most things is important.
The whole power thing is over rated. How did she gain power, she just made herself get nexted?
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
BBX
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Afc or not. I wanted to get some sort of satisfaction from nexting the girl cuz I know she still likes me on some small level but she has sent me mixed signals and I dont want to deal with that.
I want to just make her feel bad for playing games when she could have had the real deal.
So I want to tell her I only want to be friends to watch her cringe and make her feel stupid for playing games.
I dont care, if she likes me or not, but I just want to do things that most guys dont. At least she will be shocked and ALL I want is her to feel stupid.
Thats it.
iLoveCookies
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The thing is none of us know the whole story. She could be playing hard to get and wants you to put in a solid work trying to get her to see you. Or maybe indeed she is not interested or a combination of both. I would just suggest moving on to your next "subject" and give her a call in the near future or something. If you happen to talk and she finds that you are doing far better than her than you have already won the war my friend.ssj245 said:Afc or not. I wanted to get some sort of satisfaction from nexting the girl cuz I know she still likes me on some small level but she has sent me mixed signals and I dont want to deal with that.
I want to just make her feel bad for playing games when she could have had the real deal.
So I want to tell her I only want to be friends to watch her cringe and make her feel stupid for playing games.
I dont care, if she likes me or not, but I just want to do things that most guys dont. At least she will be shocked and ALL I want is her to feel stupid.
Thats it.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Why don't you start acting like a MAN? And instead of playing games (wasting your time), you simply stop 100% communication with this girl and move on to better things in life? Such as focusing on yourself and perhaps another woman (or women).ssj245 said:Afc or not. I wanted to get some sort of satisfaction from nexting the girl cuz I know she still likes me on some small level but she has sent me mixed signals and I dont want to deal with that.
I want to just make her feel bad for playing games when she could have had the real deal.
So I want to tell her I only want to be friends to watch her cringe and make her feel stupid for playing games.
I dont care, if she likes me or not, but I just want to do things that most guys dont. At least she will be shocked and ALL I want is her to feel stupid.
Thats it.
squirrels
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Neither. You're not interested in being friends with her.ssj245 said:so ther's for me to text her or call her to tell her that?
But i am pretty pissed about her playing games with me and not being straight foward.
And you're pissed about her playing games because you don't have other girls as options. Get some.
wheelin&dealin
Master Don Juan
If you tell a girl that you like her, how do you think she'll respond? She'll probably laugh her a$$ off and dump you on the spot.brucevangeorge said:Explain further. I know you should not be straight forward about certain things like "I want to bang you at the table right now" but.... ?
How is being straightforward sissy?
You want to keep her guessing. Don't ever tell a girl how you feel about her or how much you adore her. Conceal your true intentions. This gives off a great deal of mystery which can create attraction. Use body language, kino and eye contact to show her how you feel about her. Never say it flat out.