"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Better to Call or txt when just wanting to be friends
- Thread starter ssj245
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
iLoveCookies
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If you want to be friends and then make a move. Well, good luck its hard, its really, you have to have a some sort of redeeming value or this "friend" has always had it in for you as something else
If you want to be friends because you want to take advantage of something (ie: her hot friends) first off make sure that this " friend" doesnt have it in for you, otherwise she will be the catalyst in your destruction.
Well I would mix it up, super small talk over text and real plans over phone ie
Text: hey, what are you doing, nothing, what do you have planned, oh i am going to a party, I will call you when I figure out the details
Call: hey I am going at this and this time to this and this place, do you want me to drive blah blah blah, yada yada yada
brucevangeorge
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That works too. But be wary though. It might signal disinterest and you will NEVER become friends.
EVER.
Oh i asked her out a couple of times and she doesnt really seem to enthustiastic to tell me when she is free, I always ask and she is always busy. So I am fed up with it, and I just want to forget about taking her out and I want her to know that.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
wheelin&dealin
Master Don Juan
ssj245 said:But i am pretty pissed about her playing games with me and not being straight foward.
Being straight forward is sissy sh*t! You gain power by not letting others know your true intentions...
wow... I should write a book
brucevangeorge
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Explain further. I know you should not be straight forward about certain things like "I want to bang you at the table right now" but.... ?wheelin&dealin said:Being straight forward is sissy sh*t! You gain power by not letting others know your true intentions...
wow... I should write a book
How is being straightforward sissy?
Well some power she wields cuz Im pissed and I dont care about her anymore. Being straight forward about most things is important.
The whole power thing is over rated. How did she gain power, she just made herself get nexted?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
BBX
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Afc or not. I wanted to get some sort of satisfaction from nexting the girl cuz I know she still likes me on some small level but she has sent me mixed signals and I dont want to deal with that.
I want to just make her feel bad for playing games when she could have had the real deal.
So I want to tell her I only want to be friends to watch her cringe and make her feel stupid for playing games.
I dont care, if she likes me or not, but I just want to do things that most guys dont. At least she will be shocked and ALL I want is her to feel stupid.
Thats it.
iLoveCookies
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The thing is none of us know the whole story. She could be playing hard to get and wants you to put in a solid work trying to get her to see you. Or maybe indeed she is not interested or a combination of both. I would just suggest moving on to your next "subject" and give her a call in the near future or something. If you happen to talk and she finds that you are doing far better than her than you have already won the war my friend.ssj245 said:Afc or not. I wanted to get some sort of satisfaction from nexting the girl cuz I know she still likes me on some small level but she has sent me mixed signals and I dont want to deal with that.
I want to just make her feel bad for playing games when she could have had the real deal.
So I want to tell her I only want to be friends to watch her cringe and make her feel stupid for playing games.
I dont care, if she likes me or not, but I just want to do things that most guys dont. At least she will be shocked and ALL I want is her to feel stupid.
Thats it.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Why don't you start acting like a MAN? And instead of playing games (wasting your time), you simply stop 100% communication with this girl and move on to better things in life? Such as focusing on yourself and perhaps another woman (or women).ssj245 said:Afc or not. I wanted to get some sort of satisfaction from nexting the girl cuz I know she still likes me on some small level but she has sent me mixed signals and I dont want to deal with that.
I want to just make her feel bad for playing games when she could have had the real deal.
So I want to tell her I only want to be friends to watch her cringe and make her feel stupid for playing games.
I dont care, if she likes me or not, but I just want to do things that most guys dont. At least she will be shocked and ALL I want is her to feel stupid.
Thats it.
squirrels
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Neither. You're not interested in being friends with her.ssj245 said:so ther's for me to text her or call her to tell her that?
But i am pretty pissed about her playing games with me and not being straight foward.
And you're pissed about her playing games because you don't have other girls as options. Get some.
wheelin&dealin
Master Don Juan
If you tell a girl that you like her, how do you think she'll respond? She'll probably laugh her a$$ off and dump you on the spot.brucevangeorge said:Explain further. I know you should not be straight forward about certain things like "I want to bang you at the table right now" but.... ?
How is being straightforward sissy?
You want to keep her guessing. Don't ever tell a girl how you feel about her or how much you adore her. Conceal your true intentions. This gives off a great deal of mystery which can create attraction. Use body language, kino and eye contact to show her how you feel about her. Never say it flat out.