"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I've been in a LTR with this girl for about 8 months. It's been a LDR for about 1 month. So, one of my good good friends somehow has her number. He talked to her from time to time, I let him. It's not like I'm insecure about it. So anyway, he becomes angry because I let him speak to her (talk about insecurity) and then he says: "I'm going to try to take your girl away from you". I still incouraged him and told him good luck at this point. But what really bothers me is that he would say something like this let alone think it. What a friend huh?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I personally wonder: Maybe hes angry that you let him speak to her that hes just saying **** just to get you rowled up??

Ya ever had a friend with a different set of morals as you? Lets say that Im a total pimpdaddy that get around all the time but my friend attests that idea. He would consider you more like a *****. Plus he may stick to that idea to the point where he feels should be feel the same way he does. Yes....Everybody should that ***** as much as he does. Now since physical violence is not the culturaly accepted way of dealing with "problems" the next option is to push their beliefs through preaching, griping, mocking, or starting some ****.

On a final note: If your bud is kinda like what I described....I dont care if hes just tryin to press his beliefs, Id just want to tell him to **** off. Like I said I dont know him. Whatever
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Bros before hoes. He should of thought of your friendship before he went to try to get this girl. I suggest you stop being friends with him. How can you trust him? He tried to take your girl imagine what he would try to take from you if he had the chance.
 

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I was also in a situation like that with a former GF. My 'friend' was visiting my GF n the store where she used to work and asked things about my relation with her etc. And all the time he saw her he was trying to get her attention. He was just jealous because he didn't had a GF and i did. I never see him again, i hope you see that lad who is chasing your GF never again either. Kick him out of your life.

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The real question is this: Did you post this because you are afraid that your fake buddy can steal your girl from you?


He's challenging you...are you going to let him win?
 

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Originally posted by Vulture
I've been in a LTR with this girl for about 8 months. It's been a LDR for about 1 month. So, one of my good good friends somehow has her number. He talked to her from time to time, I let him. It's not like I'm insecure about it. So anyway, he becomes angry because I let him speak to her (talk about insecurity) and then he says: "I'm going to try to take your girl away from you". I still incouraged him and told him good luck at this point. But what really bothers me is that he would say something like this let alone think it. What a friend huh?
Doesn't sound like your choice of "best" friends is the greatest. Ignore the guy and move on with your life. Remain confident and don't start being AFC about it to your gf. If she's going to cheat, there's really nothing you can do.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by blueangel83
That is actually a good test to see if she is wifey material.

Wifey Material - will be faithful to you no matter what.
Yeah, that's a pretty good test for her.

Your buddy already failed the test. Bros before hoes - no exceptions.
 

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Why was he calling your GF??? I've never understood the need to have my GF and friends become buddies.
 

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
Why was he calling your GF??? I've never understood the need to have my GF and friends become buddies.
If I had to take a guess, it's because he wanted to make me angry or insecure so he could have power over me. Plus, I think he was jealous because she is so much better then his gf. :crackup:
 

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How did he get her number???
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by blueangel83
That is actually a good test to see if she is wifey material.

Huh? So because he may have better game than his friend in the eyes of his b!tch, she automatically gets promoted to Wife? Wow.

Wifey Material - will be faithful to you no matter what.


Jeeeeezus, give us a break.
 

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Bros before hoes.

so your saying shes a ho?

can't argue with that
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alright we'll give your a break tits.

what he's trying to say is that if she is faithful then she has a good trait which he looks for in a wife.

Made perfect sence to me.
 

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Originally posted by whyshy

alright we'll give your a break tits.

what he's trying to say is that if she is faithful then she has a good trait which he looks for in a wife.
So if she doesnt cheat with the other bonehead thats a green flag thats shes marriage material?

You guys really are desperate.
 

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Makes perfect sence to me, lets hear your point of you, seriously. I respect you and i would like to see your point of view.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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