Has anyone here ever talked to a girl and hit it off nicely and then when the time was right to ask her to be your gf you didn't? Then, she stopped being nice and stopped being her regular self? Are these kind of situations lost causes? Has anyone ever dug themselves out of one of these?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Asking her to be your girlfriend...
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
Dont ask her to be your girlfriend . Just invite her to go out with you sometimes or go for the kiss if its the moment .
And no , they are not lost cases .But you gotta do your move faster , because she may be thinking now that you are uninterested.
And no , they are not lost cases .But you gotta do your move faster , because she may be thinking now that you are uninterested.
danthemann
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Best piece of advice i can give ya is what happened to me about 3 hours ago.
Ive been going out with this girl for almost 2 months now? and i never pop the girlfriend/boyfriend question because the girl always hints to me when she wants to take it to that level. For example, tonight. She asked me " so what do you consider us, babe?" i went on to go into detail about stuff i expected in the relationship and so forth.
Ive been going out with this girl for almost 2 months now? and i never pop the girlfriend/boyfriend question because the girl always hints to me when she wants to take it to that level. For example, tonight. She asked me " so what do you consider us, babe?" i went on to go into detail about stuff i expected in the relationship and so forth.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Lil Magic
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Well...I found out the hard way...don't EVER ask a girl to be your girlfriend. Let it be the other way around. I don't know if there is ever a way to recover from this. At least, i haven't found a way. I think you should just cut her off for a while. Then come back when things are back to normal.