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article: Many young men are shunning sex. Is it because feminism and #MeToo are constant reminders of the inferiority of male identity?

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Hoping you'd write that mister.
I remember you brought up learning kama sutra and sensual massage techniques in that recent marriage thread.

My idea comes from a short story named 'who am I this time?' in the book by Kurt Vonnegut called "Welcome to the Monkey House"

Basically this couple becomes insanely attracted to each other auditioning for community theatre.
In play after play after play, their respective roles deepen their passion and admiration for each other and when they get married outside of the productions they simply continue the roleplaying.
There you've got your variety and spice and if they get right into it, wigs and new looks.

The two naturally quiet, introverted people were able to express without reserve, all the different facets of their personalities and keep them excited and having Fun with each other.

Fictional short story but hey there's an idea I often think about.

That whole book of stories by Vonnegut is da bomb.
That is HAWT. Good passion and love make love more intense than drugs, this is why they want it forgotten about and banned.
 

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If you do share finances and both are contributing, I always recommend one joint account for necessities and basics and a separate account for each person. Problem solved.
When I was engaged at one point this how we did it. We had a shared account all our money went into then we each had a separate account that was $200 a week for whatever clothes or gifts for the other, date night. I always found she blow her money on clothes and try and get me to take her out on dates :rolleyes: with my half. I always picked what I wanted to do, then she called me controlling always choosing what we do. I told her to stop buying clothes every week.
 

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Just to expand on the internet thing...
If we didn't have the internet:
- Guys wouldn't be able to look at unlimited porn and thus substituting and satisfying their sexual thirst and in return meeting and approaching less and less women.

- People would be actually talking and meeting more in real life
If swipes are counted as approaches, men are doing more approaches now than ever. Men are having to prospect harder than ever. Even harder than in the website era when many men were doing copy/paste messages on the dating swipes.

I don't know if there are fewer in-person approaches now than in the past times. Day game is more mainstream than it was 25 years ago.

Porn and fap is a dopamine high meant to satiate thirst. It could also be enhancing thirst.

- Women wouldn't be reading all this garbage and getting bad advice from other crazy b1tches on how to live their life.
- Women wouldn't be artifically pedestalized by having unlimited likes/attention/messages from said thirsty guys, further giving them a bigger ego and entitlement mentality.
Not sure I fully buy the premise about women reading garbage. Cosmopolitan Magazine did well for decades in the pre-internet era. For sure, the artificial pedestalization is occurring.

- Looks would be a more realistic standard than it is today.
I think women have more unrealistic expectations about bodies than men. Men tend to rate more women as attractive than women rate men as attractive.

- Feminism would be kept more in check and in line with what originally Feminism was set out to do and not all these other motives perpetuated by the internet.
Feminism radicalized between Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem. Second wave feminism in the 1970s and 1980s was more radical than Friedan era first wave feminism in the late 1950s/early 1960s.

Feminism has always been out to destroy men and the perceived infractions of the patriarchy.

- The older generation didn't have "options" like we do on the internet now so if they got in a fight, they HAD to try to understand each other and work it out. Now adays if couples get in a fight, it's often more easy just to go on dating apps to find someone that will agree with you instead of trying to work it out with your partner. Its turned into viscious cycle where gals are fine until things arent' fine, then either gals or guys look elsewhere instead of making an effort to work it out.

- Less divorce as you wouldn't be looking at porn, looking for other options, fighting over financials to keep up with the Joneses(lavish things seen on the internet of what others have)
Agree
 

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All true. What can be done about it all in the "new" environment? ( New World Order?, this is what some say), what can a man do?

Is plating the "only" way to keep self diginity and sexual options? Can the other relationship angles work at all?
I think most men would be better served avoiding sourcing dates on apps (and websites for those that still haven't transitioned to apps, mainly the 50+ group). Even if a woman is using swipe apps, if she meets someone in real life, that interaction is framed around the real life interaction. That's better. She'll still perceive massive choice if she has the apps but there will be more differentiation if an interaction begins in real life, especially if it begins in real life from a non-bar venue and/or female populated social environment.

Plating is one valid option in this environment. I think a serial monogamy type model can work in this environment as well. Have extended relationships, but don't get married and don't impregnate.
 

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Not sure I fully buy the premise about women reading garbage. Cosmopolitan Magazine did well for decades in the pre-internet era.

I think women have more unrealistic expectations about bodies than men. Men tend to rate more women as attractive than women rate men as attractive.

Feminism radicalized between Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem. Second wave feminism in the 1970s and 1980s was more radical than Friedan era first wave feminism in the late 1950s/early 1960s.

Feminism has always been out to destroy men and the perceived infractions of the patriarchy.
Part of what I meant by reading garbage is that it is natural for women not be be able to make their own decisions based on the facts and situations they are in. They always have to rely on others to help them. The Internet just made it easier to get either good or bad advice from their peers but either way, it still made them ever more dependent on the opinions and advice of others.
To me Cosmo was the start of garbage magazine that started this whole entitlement, fake empowerment, pedestalization, using guys trend. There used to be many other quality woman's magazines that came before that, that actually added some value to becoming a woman and that didn't always concentrate on guy, fashion tips, etc.

I believe feminism started out with good intentions but morphed into something entirely different than even the original pioneering women intended it being.

If you haven't seen Handsmaid Tale on Hulu, it's about oppression of women. I was really surprised the original story was written by a woman and her interviews on it were interesting as well.
 

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I think there is encoded in the human male instinct a kill-switch that when the females are low quality, it's time to got MGTOW so as to pollute the rest of the genetic stock.
Let's try this again:

I think there is encoded in the human male instinct a kill-switch that when the females are low quality, it's time to go MGTOW so as to NOT pollute the rest of the genetic stock.
 

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I met with couple guys your age recently - one was absolutely bored with his s.hitjob (too honest in his ways of thinking, acting and living to get promoted there, but he doesn't care) and another tired of his GF bul.ls.hit. They both experiment with party drugs. I like them, I wanted to guide them a bit, they were shocked with some ideas yet open to listen.

Both were also admiring my new apartment - IMO too much for my taste.

I was never so impressed with material things at their age, I became chasing money later.

They are both handsome and somewhat lost. They have small dreams like a new bike or cool holidays. Prices go up for things like cars or apartments. Women get bored faster than ever. New boyfriend is several messages away on Tinder.

Back when I was 27 it was still a solid game field. Tinder was just released in USA but didn't reach Europe for good at least for 2 years. Both of them could have really pretty GF's back then. Now dating market is ruined by it and they both get the short stick because not so great jobs and money earned/not that great clothes/photos on instagram etc.

This trend to get pierced and tattoo'ed is connected with it - it's an effect of more aggressive dating market - people feel they need additional edge and it works - to some extent - but at what cost really? Thousands of guys doing really weird s.hit just to score some p.ussy that is not worth all that hassle really.

Once you understand how rotten females became nowadays, how far from their biological purpose they are, you achieve what your previous, hunter-frame had not - true, realy, indifference about them - it leads to being chased by women, always ending conversations first naturally, not acting desperate etc.

27y old guys nowadays are mostly in worst possible time of their lives - they are past their college years (final years provided them with final-years students status) and are not experienced enough , still doing sh.it.ty job and not looked up in dating and job market enough, not earning enough money, yet already experienced enough to understand that they should have more, achieve more, demand more.

Yet its unobtainable and they are losing game. For now. Social pressure and media promotion of expensive way of living makes them depressed, its their dream to get more and be more because its the dream of their women that cannot become true....thus the drugs, alcohol and different weird ideas how to earn money fast and get the edge over the competition that deals with the same, phucked up market.
Exactly my experience at 27. I had a harem of 5 women at 27. Today's 27-year-olds are happy to get a couple dates per year and maybe a 2 month str.
 

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Since you and I are both Millennials, we likely had grandfathers born in the 1920s or maybe early 1930s. My maternal grandfather was a great man. He fought in World War II and had an attractive feminine wife with a 0 notch count when they married. My grandma was proud of her pre-marriage 0 notch count. They married soon after he returned from World War II. It lasted 55+ years.

That doesn't happen today. I miss my grandparents. I thought about my grandfather a lot this weekend with it being Father's Day.

I'm the only grandchild of those previously mentioned grandparents to not get a divorce. That's because I assessed the sexual marketplace, the broader culture and my own personality. I realized it wasn't going to work. I didn't want to go through a divorce. My parents went through one and it was not good. I want to have sex. I think pair bonding is good. An extended relationship has value. I'm not going to get the state involved in it. I'm going to extract the value I can from the relationship and exit when it is no longer good. I'm not sticking around for a decline in sexual frequency.

Why would I want to have kids when I likely won't stay with the baby mama until the kids are 18? That's not just me. Probability dictates that any two people having kids in the West aren't likely to be together until all their kids reach 18. I don't want to put a child through what I went through.
What is the alternative? Mgtow? Incel?

I've approached thousands in my life. I stopped counting pulling at 18. The majority of men here and in general don't approach or pull. The majority rely on OLD or social circle. None of the following is a ideal metric for the SMP. The apps are a resources but mostly low hanging fruit.

The difference is night and day. While i learned game, i got nothing on the greatest generation. Still, women were hypergamy but the culture didn't promote it. Its now open season and dudes still marry sloot gonna sloot. I have seen some stuff. I understand that abundance of nihilism in men today.

Whats the point? In terms of the purpose of it all. Meaningless existence and rudderless is most men. Most women are damaged goods, liberal, cannot cook or clean. The fellas who pull women abroad revert to the Western culture the sec they have a green card. This is a zero sum game.

I approach, i pull or next. Repeat. I have been contemplating with the present and my plans for the future. I have no idea why anybody else is going to play house.

I asked a monk about it. He calls it a loan. Its a rental. It has a timeline and its short lived. It would seem to be the current lifestyle factors and stressor don't lead to the end game our grandfather lived. The culture is degenerate and shameless.

No condom is no longer a worthy risk.
 

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The Baby Boomers had excess because of a unique set of circumstances unlikely to be replicated in the present or future. After World War II, Europe and Japan were decimated. It would take both of those areas until 1965-1970 to be competitive economically on a global scale. Japan had a great 1970s and 1980s. The Nikkei crashed in 1989 and Japan has never truly recovered from that. With the U.S. being the dominant global economic force in the 1945-1970 era, the Baby Boomers were raised in prosperity and graduated into good economies when they decided to end their educations, whether it was high school, college, or beyond. Even the Boomers that whine about graduating into recessionary 1970s economies had a walk in the park compared to the Millennials who graduated in the late 2000s/early 2010s and the COVID 2020-2021 graduates.

It was a great time. Because Boomers weren't competing globally in the early parts of their careers, they had an advantage. They eventually squandered it. The Boomers basically rode the coattails of the GI Generation (1910-1925), who were one of the most accomplished generations, and didn't build upon the successes of the GI Generation. All the subsequent post Boomer generations have struggled to varying extents. X'ers routinely complain about being neglected and overlooked. This is partially due to being latchkey kids. Millennials have been decimated by an increasing need to go to college (the good middle class income jobs in factories were long gone by the time Millennials started turning 18 in the 2000-2005 time frame). The cost of college skyrocketed between 1980-present. Also, since more people were getting BA/BS degrees or more after 1980, the value of each individual BA/BS degree or MA/MS/MBA degree diminished. Millennials have had to pay more for degrees that haven't made them as marketable. Additionally, the Millennials have taken the brunt of the 2 worst recessions since WWII, the Great Recession of the late 2000s/early 2010s and COVID in 2020.

The Millennials were the first large generation to see their parents divorce to a large extent. I think you're right that a lot of Millennials grew up with messed up family dynamics. Some of the smarter Millennials don't want to repeat that. Even if they did want marriage, babies, and homes in the suburbs, they've been so crushed by student debt and recessions that they can't financially pull it off. Many of the older Millennials of the early 1980s that did get married went through their first divorce in the late 2010s, or will be part of the many post COVID divorces in the early 2020s.

You're correct that people who do spend their 18-29 years in numerous sexual relationships won't be good marriage material by 30. This is called carousel riding for women. Tinder, Hinge, and Bumble in any metro area of a sizable population will be full of women 27-39 years old who were/are carousel riders. It's not all on the women. Some men have blame in this. The top tier of men (roughly around the top 10% of men) who are getting most of the sex have no incentive to commit. The middle of the bell curve men are now getting lower quality women with higher BMIs and notch counts. Two causes of this are female hypergamy and male surpluses. These women won't make long term partners worthy of a enforceable legal contract. The better looking ones might be worth a 2-5 year relationship without a marital contract.
Its why i recommend young lads get paper right, get a edu in stem or a trade or start a business. Acquire competence in game. Don't play house ever or at least be 35 or older. I saw AMS on about being 40 and slowing down. Contemplating mortality.

Pending the city, the lawa, and all, common law equates to cucked. The sec kids are, its a crap shoot, and women pull the pin on the divorce or fat grenade. Usually both.
 

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What is the alternative? Mgtow? Incel?

I've approached thousands in my life. I stopped counting pulling at 18. The majority of men here and in general don't approach or pull. The majority rely on OLD or social circle. None of the following is a ideal metric for the SMP. The apps are a resources but mostly low hanging fruit.

The difference is night and day. While i learned game, i got nothing on the greatest generation. Still, women were hypergamy but the culture didn't promote it. Its now open season and dudes still marry sloot gonna sloot. I have seen some stuff. I understand that abundance of nihilism in men today.

Whats the point? In terms of the purpose of it all. Meaningless existence and rudderless is most men. Most women are damaged goods, liberal, cannot cook or clean. The fellas who pull women abroad revert to the Western culture the sec they have a green card. This is a zero sum game.

I approach, i pull or next. Repeat. I have been contemplating with the present and my plans for the future. I have no idea why anybody else is going to play house.

I asked a monk about it. He calls it a loan. Its a rental. It has a timeline and its short lived. It would seem to be the current lifestyle factors and stressor don't lead to the end game our grandfather lived. The culture is degenerate and shameless.

No condom is no longer a worthy risk.
The most viable paths I perceive are....

1. Serial monogamy with no marriage and no impregnation. A series of 2-5 year relationships until at least one's 60s.
2. The ongoing player lifestyle/plate spinning.

I'm trying to path 1 above. I wear condoms.

MGTOW monk mode is not a solution.

Over the course of my life, I've been more of a cold approacher. I've been an app swiper. I used websites at times before apps. I can tell you my worst interactions were website/app started interactions. I've been treated in a subhuman manner in many of those interactions.

Most men do not have the guts to be hardcore cold approachers.

You're exactly right that app swiping and social circle are the preferred methods. I think there's a valid point of trying to set yourself up in female friendly social environments, which can turn cold approaches into warm approaches. That really can't be implemented from scratch now in a pandemic. Most people who turn to apps turn to apps because social circle efforts are fruitless.
 

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The most viable paths I perceive are....

1. Serial monogamy with no marriage and no impregnation. A series of 2-5 year relationships until at least one's 60s.
2. The ongoing player lifestyle/plate spinning.

I'm trying to path 1 above. I wear condoms.

MGTOW monk mode is not a solution.

Over the course of my life, I've been more of a cold approacher. I've been an app swiper. I used websites at times before apps. I can tell you my worst interactions were website/app started interactions. I've been treated in a subhuman manner in many of those interactions.

Most men do not have the guts to be hardcore cold approachers.

You're exactly right that app swiping and social circle are the preferred methods. I think there's a valid point of trying to set yourself up in female friendly social environments, which can turn cold approaches into warm approaches. That really can't be implemented from scratch now in a pandemic. Most people who turn to apps turn to apps because social circle efforts are fruitless.
I am with the mgtow monk path for short term which you build a business, product launch or something legit. I am on mgtow with marriage.

I spin plates. I don't care for exclusive LTR. I don't care for it. I don't see LTR anymore a path forward with me given the fact that 80% of divorce initiated by women. Meanwhile hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day. Real talk.

Sw mate I live by cold approach. Its the modern era. Everyone swipes but my best work is cold approach. I am a sniper. I am either on, balls to the wall running through the clubs with the flame thrower or i am stone cold. In either case, I always shoot.

I love day and night game. I was approaching on pandemic. Success rate was poor but it was global pandemic and pickup is a zero sum game. I approach purely for the sport and love of the game. Any IOIs or choosing signals and i run over her D first.

Unfortunately, all the former playboy in pua are gone. Rsd, Tom Torrero, and others are gone. To date, Julien was the best pua ever irl i saw. Alex is retired. Toddv is going. James Tusk too. YouTube is pc and cucks.

Trp don't approach. Lots of complaining and in fighting. I like MLD and Troy but neither ate bachelors.
 

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So you're around.

How has ur improvements been going on?

I've not seen any milestones in ur thread, I trust you know the purpose for keeping on posting there, it sets new bar of standards not just for you but for others who come here.

You hv to give back something after learning some stuff here, ain't nothing is free young man.
Update coming
 

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I'm on day five of No porn No fap, going well so far. Couldn't resist googling "Bree Olson rimming" this morning, my first relapse. After a couple seconds I deleted the search.

Was at the beach the other day and I could feel myself thirsting over girls, looking at them briefly. Tomorrow I'll be at the beach all day.
 

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A lot will. Some bad things have happened due to people not getting laid. When men are not getting laid, they are pisssed.



You were fortunate. I'm an early Millennial. The Millennials like myself who turned 18 in the early 2000s never had a good mating environment. The entire Millennial generation had a bad environment that is continually getting worse.



Agree 100%. The Millennials have been quite entitled and a lot of them are pisssed. Conditions are not likely to be better for Gen Z, whose oldest members are now in their early 20s.
Can confirm. In my early 20s, **** sucks here lmao don’t get me wrong, I could bag a few hoes if I really wanted to, but mostlf them are nasty and just ugly. The dudes I know that did constantly pull tail were only pulling the uggos too, so it’s not just me. Young women nowadays aren’t having a whole lot of sex like raging whores (well, most of them aren’t anyway), they’re just having enough to destroy their ability to love and pairbond lol
It's probably better for sexless men to go down the overconsumption of alcohol path than the overconsumption of porn and accompanying fapping path.
Yo wait what? For real?
simply being in the right environment to meet tons of stupid women.
This is the biggest thing right here. It’s your environment that gives you pussy more so than anything else in this world. I’ve realized this a while ago, but it’s true. I know a Pakistani dude who’s short and overweight, about 5’7ish who bags girls but they’re all kinda ugly, except for his now current gf who he had to basically steal from his best friend when they were going thru relationship issues with each other. Dude is a snake lol and and honestly not all that. I think it’s mostly just having the balls to actually go for it too and not care, it just makes you more prone to getting #MeToo’d and your life destroyed though.

All these problems are mostly prevalent in the US btw, I’d like to point out that the UK doesn’t have these issues to nearly the same extent that we do here.
Excess Fapping ends up substituting sex and real companionship and fvcks up your real response around women.
Women don’t offer companionship in 2020. Women also aren’t women in 2020 either lol
Every man on here should be constantly fvcking, even if he has to lower his standards to prevent drought.
Why do you say that?
Why would I want to have kids when I likely won't stay with the baby mama until the kids are 18? That's not just me. Probability dictates that any two people having kids in the West aren't likely to be together until all their kids reach 18. I don't want to put a child through what I went through.
Even more than that, why would you want to raise kids in this era? Even if things go smooth-sailing with your hypothetical wife, there’s no gauruntee that she’ll remain that way once she has kids. Even though it shouldn’t be this way, women put the kids first once she gives birth, even if she isn’t a good mom. They use that as an excuse to neglect you. Not to mention, women become the most horrible human beings when they’re pregnant. You know all those stories about horrible men leaving their women when they’re pregnant? Yeah, it’s not because the guy was actually horrible, it was because she was such a cunt towards him that he decided to leave.

I don’t want kids anymore myself. Even if I do find ‘the one’. It’s just not worth it. I know it’s selfish of me to say this, but I come first in my relationship, well before the kids. And it’s because of jealousy or anything like that, it’s because I want the same love, affection, intimacy, whatever you want to call it; I’d want it to be the same after kids as before, and I just don’t think that’s possible. Many women don’t even want to have kids nowadays either, less than men actually. I participated in a CollegePulse survey that asked a question regarding that and the sample size was like 16,000 college students all across the US. Results showed that 80% of men would like to have kids at some point in time, while only 60% of women. Those were the exact stats, I’m not making this up. It’s ****ed. And it came from women, not from men. Men haven’t changed much in the past decades, but women have. A lot. And they say “where have all the good men gone?” without realizing that we never went anywhere, it’s only their expectations that have gotten sky-high and THEY have changed. And they’ll think to themselves “if men were always like this, then I don’t want to have anything to do with them” even though women were happier in the pre-feminism day’s than even men.

It’s ****ed.
partying, drugs, promiscuity, strip clubs were nowhere near as prevalent or rather accepted before 1950. It's amazing how much of a change occurred in such a relatively small time frame.
100%. In the 1970s, you’d get arrested for swearing in a comedy club. It’s insane.
Having been around for awhile, I think the biggest contributing factors has been the internet and feminism, which led to mindset change in some females coupled with male pvssy enslavement and thirst. Which then spiralled to boring sex lives with each other(long term marriages) and divorce/single motherhood. Guys raised by single and often young mothers didn't really have the guidance or male mentor in their lives, further adding to the problems we face today. Gradually over time, female empowerment and those pro-females that pushed their agenda hard, led to certain females that should've never been in power of any kind(mental illness, jaded, hate for males, etc) to socially condition young males and weak older males to fit their agenda's and narratives. Couple that with the whole Social Media and Smartphones which made female pvssy more valuable than gold for some people.

I vividly remember in the late 90's when a coworker and I were having a conversation about buying a TV and he said he's not sure if he can get it and would have to ask the wife. I found that VERY weird but it was only the start of things to come from that point onward.

So bottom line is I blame technology for the decline to where we're at today.
Just to expand on the internet thing...
If we didn't have the internet:
- Guys wouldn't be able to look at unlimited porn and thus substituting and satisfying their sexual thirst and in return meeting and approaching less and less women.
- Women wouldn't be reading all this garbage and getting bad advice from other crazy b1tches on how to live their life.
- Women wouldn't be artifically pedestalized by having unlimited likes/attention/messages from said thirsty guys, further giving them a bigger ego and entitlement mentality.
- Looks would be a more realistic standard than it is today.
- Feminism would be kept more in check and in line with what originally Feminism was set out to do and not all these other motives perpetuated by the internet.
- People would be actually talking and meeting more in real life
- Less divorce as you wouldn't be looking at porn, looking for other options, fighting over financials to keep up with the Joneses(lavish things seen on the internet of what others have)
- The older generation didn't have "options" like we do on the internet now so if they got in a fight, they HAD to try to understand each other and work it out. Now adays if couples get in a fight, it's often more easy just to go on dating apps to find someone that will agree with you instead of trying to work it out with your partner. Its turned into viscious cycle where gals are fine until things arent' fine, then either gals or guys look elsewhere instead of making an effort to work it out.

There are countless other examples...
I disagree. I understand the premise of this, but all technology really did was exacerbate already-existing problems within society. I summed up the real problems with society in this post right here (that also links to another post):
Social media and the internet and technology, etc. just worsened what was already there, it didn’t cause anything in and of itself. These things simply just act as an amplifier to what already is. If times were good, then technology would have made them even better. The problem, however, wasn’t the smartphone or facebook or the internet, the problem was the culture. And THAT is what caused everything to go wrong.
 

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Not even dude, my grandpa told me that a high school diploma is all it took to live a middle-class earning in his days. College? Now that’s living the fine life.
I'm actually amazed that we don't have a suicide crisis.
We do have a suicide crisis. Men do, anyway...
You got it right with internet and feminism. Simping increased dramatically with technology. With social media and smartphones, women could get as much attention as they desired. Women have always craved attention. Social media and smartphones deliver an attention high for women on par with a cocaine high from the finest Colombian cocaine.

Ratios have gotten worse over time due to a number of factors. Technology does lower the cost of simping. It's easier to swipe right, slide into DMs, etc. than approach a woman in person. The ease of perceived access to women via technology, a lack of a masculine presence for men in their formative years, and bad ratios fuel the male thirst/beta simping pandemic. That pandemic is actually more prevalent globally than COVID.

In another post, I'm going to break down your tech examples. They were good.



This is one of those things that has good intentions. It theoretical seems good. In real life, it is not good. The theory is that couples should collaboratively discuss larger purchases with tied together finances.

In reality, the men become enslaved, henpecked, and often seeking female approval.

In the late 1990s, a good TV set maybe cost $700-$1,000 then, which might be more like $1,100-$1,400 today. TV set technology has changed a lot. Now, a good TV set runs $300-$600.
I’m saying it to the other guy and I’ll say to you: the problem is the culture. This stuff could have been used for good, but because people were bad due to a bad culture, it became used for bad. It was just an amplifier for what already was. Read my post that I linked above, I explain it all.
 

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Can confirm. In my early 20s, **** sucks here lmao don’t get me wrong, I could bag a few hoes if I really wanted to, but mostlf them are nasty and just ugly. The dudes I know that did constantly pull tail were only pulling the uggos too, so it’s not just me. Young women nowadays aren’t having a whole lot of sex like raging whores (well, most of them aren’t anyway), they’re just having enough to destroy their ability to love and pairbond lol

Yo wait what? For real?

This is the biggest thing right here. It’s your environment that gives you pussy more so than anything else in this world. I’ve realized this a while ago, but it’s true. I know a Pakistani dude who’s short and overweight, about 5’7ish who bags girls but they’re all kinda ugly, except for his now current gf who he had to basically steal from his best friend when they were going thru relationship issues with each other. Dude is a snake lol and and honestly not all that. I think it’s mostly just having the balls to actually go for it too and not care, it just makes you more prone to getting #MeToo’d and your life destroyed though.

All these problems are mostly prevalent in the US btw, I’d like to point out that the UK doesn’t have these issues to nearly the same extent that we do here.

Women don’t offer companionship in 2020. Women also aren’t women in 2020 either lol
So if women aren't "women" anymore, then whose gonna be the "woman"?

If it's your "environment" that gives you the puzzy, then what is it about the environments?? How do you set your self up in a favorable environment.
Why do you say that?

Even more than that, why would you want to raise kids in this era? Even if things go smooth-sailing with your hypothetical wife, there’s no gauruntee that she’ll remain that way once she has kids. Even though it shouldn’t be this way, women put the kids first once she gives birth, even if she isn’t a good mom. They use that as an excuse to neglect you. Not to mention, women become the most horrible human beings when they’re pregnant. You know all those stories about horrible men leaving their women when they’re pregnant? Yeah, it’s not because the guy was actually horrible, it was because she was such a cunt towards him that he decided to leave.

I don’t want kids anymore myself. Even if I do find ‘the one’. It’s just not worth it. I know it’s selfish of me to say this, but I come first in my relationship, well before the kids. And it’s because of jealousy or anything like that, it’s because I want the same love, affection, intimacy, whatever you want to call it; I’d want it to be the same after kids as before, and I just don’t think that’s possible. Many women don’t even want to have kids nowadays either, less than men actually. I participated in a CollegePulse survey that asked a question regarding that and the sample size was like 16,000 college students all across the US. Results showed that 80% of men would like to have kids at some point in time, while only 60% of women. Those were the exact stats, I’m not making this up. It’s ****ed. And it came from women, not from men. Men haven’t changed much in the past decades, but women have. A lot. And they say “where have all the good men gone?” without realizing that we never went anywhere, it’s only their expectations that have gotten sky-high and THEY have changed. And they’ll think to themselves “if men were always like this, then I don’t want to have anything to do with them” even though women were happier in the pre-feminism day’s than even men.
What all has "f*sm" changed for a man?

It’s ****ed.

100%. In the 1970s, you’d get arrested for swearing in a comedy club. It’s insane.


I disagree. I understand the premise of this, but all technology really did was exacerbate already-existing problems within society. I summed up the real problems with society in this post right here (that also links to another post):
Social media and the internet and technology, etc. just worsened what was already there, it didn’t cause anything in and of itself. These things simply just act as an amplifier to what already is. If times were good, then technology would have made them even better. The problem, however, wasn’t the smartphone or facebook or the internet, the problem was the culture. And THAT is what caused everything to go wrong.
So what games and timewasters are "amplified" due to technology? What is a man to do? How can a man be a "man" if the women are no longer "women"?
 

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Bro I always enjoy reading your posts, the slang and rhetoric you use in your posts are top notch, and the way you write is always a ‘get up & go’ militant mentality motivating us to just do. Just thought I’d tip my hat to you brother
 

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So if women aren't "women" anymore, then whose gonna be the "woman".
Unfortunately, no one. The closest you can get to it are flamboyant gay men, but they’re more about the “fabulous” female types and getting dominated rather than actually being nurturing and feminine etc.

Besides, they’re not exactly a viable option for us straight men lol
What all has "f*sm" changed for a man?
I don’t follow what you mean by this
So what games and timewasters are "amplified" due to technology? What is a man to do? How can a man be a "man" if the women are no longer "women"?
Yes, they’re amplified. Before, boys used to go outside, run around, and play kick-the-can. But nowadays, parks are dead, TV is spilling soy, and sports are becoming a thing of the past.

As for what a man is to do—you get back to your roots. Exercise is a must. Every man must lift, no questions asked. Getting into self-defense as your form of cardio, but also to learn how to fight is a long lost art we can do. Getting into guns is another; it’s akin to the old caveman concept of “who can pick up the biggest stick”. Joking and jesting with your boys and just shooting the shit is another, but unfortunately no one has friends anymore because it’s 2020. Plus, dudes are snakes. Smashing women when you get the chance is another bc it’s the epitome of sexual dimorphism, but you shouldn’t have to rely on them to define your manliness. It’s about dominance, and a man must be dominant. But when she’s the only thing you rely on to exert dominance, it’s not enough. Soon you’ll need to start conquering something more to be more dominant, which is why prison inmates **** other men even though they’re straight. No other outlet for masculinity. Getting into auto repair and construction work is good too. You don’t need to do it as a job, but just know wtf to do. Renovate your home yourself, another long lost art of manliness. I’m trying to get into this stuff myself but it’s hard because you need an “in”, so to speak. Tinkering with little toys, that’s good too. The biggest thing is the social aspect of it if I’m being honest, but that’s been fading for decades since individualism first took off RIP

There’s still things you can do.
 
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