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Unfortunately, no one. The closest you can get to it are flamboyant gay men, but they’re more about the “fabulous” female types and getting dominated rather than actually being nurturing and feminine etc.

Besides, they’re not exactly a viable option for us straight men lol

I don’t follow what you mean by this

Yes, they’re amplified. Before, boys used to go outside, run around, and play kick-the-can. But nowadays, parks are dead, TV is spilling soy, and sports are becoming a thing of the past.

As for what a man is to do—you get back to your roots. Exercise is a must. Every man must lift, no questions asked. Getting into self-defense as your form of cardio, but also to learn how to fight is a long lost art we can do. Getting into guns is another; it’s akin to the old caveman concept of “who can pick up the biggest stick”. Joking and jesting with your boys and just shooting the shit is another, but unfortunately no one has friends anymore because it’s 2020. Plus, dudes are snakes. Smashing women when you get the chance is another bc it’s the epitome of sexual dimorphism, but you shouldn’t have to rely on them to define your manliness. It’s about dominance, and a man must be dominant. But when she’s the only thing you rely on to exert dominance, it’s not enough. Soon you’ll need to start conquering something more to be more dominant, which is why prison inmates **** other men even though they’re straight. No other outlet for masculinity. Getting into auto repair and construction work is good too. You don’t need to do it as a job, but just know wtf to do. Renovate your home yourself, another long lost art of manliness. I’m trying to get into this stuff myself but it’s hard because you need an “in”, so to speak. Tinkering with little toys, that’s good too. The biggest thing is the social aspect of it if I’m being honest, but that’s been fading for decades since individualism first took off RIP

There’s still things you can do.
So how do we deal with females who want to be "dominant" and not "controlled" by men? Other then avoiding these women? These women still have sex, still have mens they admire and want to be with?

What are the "new rules" for being with them? If we are on a "prison planet", and these women are even "small aggressive men", do we just have to be an even more dominant man who these small men are "punks" to? ( I'm reaching ). I've heard legit pimps ( they can be really bad people I know ), call their hos "punks", like it's a little man who will slit his throat if he turns his back.

These little "punks" the pimp realize can dominate most avg men and take his cash and bleed him for whatever emotional support and some physical support she might need. Does that dynamic have any bearing on what needs to be done?

I still have a few females who want to be "giving" and "feminine" for me, although they can be "bossy" and domineering to others. I don't have to force them to do it, they want to do it for me.
 

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(....) These women still have sex, still have mens they admire and want to be with
(...) we just have to be an even more dominant man (...)

I still have a few females who want to be "giving" and "feminine" for me, (...) I don't have to force them to do it, they want to do it for me.
I wish men who think like this could actually write concrete and specific examples they are genuinely experiencing, so that other men know what to also look for.
Example: today this woman dropped off lasagna
Example: yesterday that woman wouldn't leave my bathroom until she was satisfied it was thoroughly cleaned and I didn't ask her to do it.
Example: last Saturday at an event, a woman deferred to me for my knowledgeable opinion on such and such instead of spouting tough, empty talk like a feminist did at the same event

etc etc
 

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I wish men who think like this could actually write concrete and specific examples they are genuinely experiencing, so that other men know what to also look for.
Example: today this woman dropped off lasagna
Example: yesterday that woman wouldn't leave my bathroom until she was satisfied it was thoroughly cleaned and I didn't ask her to do it.
Example: last Saturday at an event, a woman deferred to me for my knowledgeable opinion on such and such instead of spouting tough, empty talk like a feminist did at the same event

etc etc
I think alot of us take a bite of the "negative" side of the picture and spend more time talking about it. Versus interacting with positive situations and talking about that. Most men on this site and other men who wouldn't be caught dead on this site agree there has been a change in all of society.
 
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I think alot of us take a bite of the "negative" side of the picture and spend more time talking about it. Versus interacting with positive situations and talking about that. Most men on this site and other men who wouldn't be caught dead on this site agree there has been a change in all of society.
ok, I figured out after a few minutes it was going to be all sex related examples and made a bet with myself I wouldn't see any concrete, specific examples of feminine women acting feminine. lol. its ok, I get that concentrating on negatives keeps us all indignant and stronger.
Took me awhile to get this.
 

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ok, I figured out after a few minutes it was going to be all sex related examples and made a bet with myself I wouldn't see any concrete, specific examples of feminine women acting feminine. lol. its ok, I get that concentrating on negatives keeps us all indignant and stronger.
Took me awhile to get this.
Very good words. We need to find a way to see and live the positive and achieve growth and increase daily. Focusing on the negative side like you say keeps us indigant.
 

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So how do we deal with females who want to be "dominant" and not "controlled" by men? Other then avoiding these women? These women still have sex, still have mens they admire and want to be with?
The men they want don’t want them for anything more than sex. Either make yourself one of those guys, or don’t.
What are the "new rules" for being with them? If we are on a "prison planet", and these women are even "small aggressive men", do we just have to be an even more dominant man who these small men are "punks" to? ( I'm reaching ). I've heard legit pimps ( they can be really bad people I know ), call their hos "punks", like it's a little man who will slit his throat if he turns his back.

These little "punks" the pimp realize can dominate most avg men and take his cash and bleed him for whatever emotional support and some physical support she might need. Does that dynamic have any bearing on what needs to be done?
I don’t see what you’re getting at here, unless you’re saying to beat them with a coat hanger lol I mean if it works, it works. You do have to be more dominant no matter what. It’s just that the type of dominant you’d have to be would be like prison inmate dominant, and getting to that level of testosterone makes you much more prone to go to prison cuz then you don’t care about the laws or anything anymore.
I wish men who think like this could actually write concrete and specific examples they are genuinely experiencing, so that other men know what to also look for.
Example: today this woman dropped off lasagna
Example: yesterday that woman wouldn't leave my bathroom until she was satisfied it was thoroughly cleaned and I didn't ask her to do it.
Example: last Saturday at an event, a woman deferred to me for my knowledgeable opinion on such and such instead of spouting tough, empty talk like a feminist did at the same event

etc etc
Lol no lynx, you want it for yourself to understand us men better.
I still have a few females who want to be "giving" and "feminine" for me, although they can be "bossy" and domineering to others. I don't have to force them to do it, they want to do it for me.
Isn’t that just a temporary act to win you over though? Like they’ll give you **** later on once they got you under their hook.
 

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The men they want don’t want them for anything more than sex. Either make yourself one of those guys, or don’t.

I don’t see what you’re getting at here, unless you’re saying to beat them with a coat hanger lol I mean if it works, it works. You do have to be more dominant no matter what. It’s just that the type of dominant you’d have to be would be like prison inmate dominant, and getting to that level of testosterone makes you much more prone to go to prison cuz then you don’t care about the laws or anything anymore.

Lol no lynx, you want it for yourself to understand us men better.

Isn’t that just a temporary act to win you over though? Like they’ll give you **** later on once they got you under their hook.
Not all of them bro. Some women do choose to "submit" to certain men. So they don't want to "drive" the relationship, they just want things to go smoothly and not have to worry about it.
 

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The men they want don’t want them for anything more than sex. Either make yourself one of those guys, or don’t.

I don’t see what you’re getting at here, unless you’re saying to beat them with a coat hanger lol I mean if it works, it works. You do have to be more dominant no matter what. It’s just that the type of dominant you’d have to be would be like prison inmate dominant, and getting to that level of testosterone makes you much more prone to go to prison cuz then you don’t care about the laws or anything anymore.

Lol no lynx, you want it for yourself to understand us men better.

Isn’t that just a temporary act to win you over though? Like they’ll give you **** later on once they got you under their hook.
it is temporary, which is why some of us can't think of many examples outside of sex submission.
And you're right Double, I do ask for me:cool: first then for men second.

Imagine there was a description of the concrete, specific things and behaviours a feminine, submissive woman does and what men could be looking for to know they've come across a nurturing woman?
the lasagne, bathroom cleaning or public debate deferral thing.
 

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Not all of them bro. Some women do choose to "submit" to certain men. So they don't want to "drive" the relationship, they just want things to go smoothly and not have to worry about it.
I’m just jaded at this point cuz I don’t see it that way. Female neuroticism always takes over eventually to give you unpassable shit tests. I still try to find a way to pass them, somehow lol. But it’s still idiotic nonetheless. I like flirty playfulness and fun, but mindgames make me wanna walk. I disagree that it’s because of evolution, I think it’s just because of waning attraction. Instant gratification and all that; things run smoothly at first during the honeymoon phase, then they fizzle out. Boom. Attraction lost.

A lot of times it’s due to built up resentment for you not being completely wrapped around her finger though too. But from what I’ve found, it’s just an insecurity on her end that you don’t love her. God forbid you ever say those 3 cursed words though and you bet your ass she’s ghost. Stupid female monkey brain hamstring. You show that you love her via your actions, not through words or things. Biggest thing here. Never verbalize it. Unless she’s the one. And even then, it ain’t worth the risk.

It’s honestly better in this day and age to be gay. Greater submissiveness from those faggots considering the way that they are. Probably more romantic too. Just not viable for me lol. But I remember my dad telling me about a customer of his who basically turned gay just so that he could get some (he was incel before it was called that). Not even because he hates women or anything, just because he wants something lol. Really makes me wanna puke lowkey but hey, who am I to judge...

I know they say “enjoy the decline” tongue-in-cheek but there’s an element of seriousness to it. This is a game that has end game, so no one’s winning. I want out, cuz I’m not really enjoying this ride RIP.
 

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I’m just jaded at this point cuz I don’t see it that way. Female neuroticism always takes over eventually to give you unpassable shit tests. I still try to find a way to pass them, somehow lol. But it’s still idiotic nonetheless. I like flirty playfulness and fun, but mindgames make me wanna walk. I disagree that it’s because of evolution, I think it’s just because of waning attraction. Instant gratification and all that; things run smoothly at first during the honeymoon phase, then they fizzle out. Boom. Attraction lost.

A lot of times it’s due to built up resentment for you not being completely wrapped around her finger though too. But from what I’ve found, it’s just an insecurity on her end that you don’t love her. God forbid you ever say those 3 cursed words though and you bet your ass she’s ghost. Stupid female monkey brain hamstring. You show that you love her via your actions, not through words or things. Biggest thing here. Never verbalize it. Unless she’s the one. And even then, it ain’t worth the risk.

It’s honestly better in this day and age to be gay. Greater submissiveness from those faggots considering the way that they are. Probably more romantic too. Just not viable for me lol. But I remember my dad telling me about a customer of his who basically turned gay just so that he could get some (he was incel before it was called that). Not even because he hates women or anything, just because he wants something lol. Really makes me wanna puke lowkey but hey, who am I to judge...

I know they say “enjoy the decline” tongue-in-cheek but there’s an element of seriousness to it. This is a game that has end game, so no one’s winning. I want out, cuz I’m not really enjoying this ride RIP.
Your making it sound like an impossible shyt sandwhich!
 

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I wish men who think like this could actually write concrete and specific examples they are genuinely experiencing, so that other men know what to also look for.
I can think of one example off the top of my head. I was at Portaventura World and the management are snakes who monetise the front row on their coasters, forcing you to pay if you want to skip the long queues and/or ride the front row.

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I waited till after dark to use my front row pass I'd purchased, and was paired in the front row with a cute Spanish girl, who seemed both excited and nervous. As we climbed the lift I told her to stick her arms and her legs up, which feels like you're falling standing up, and hold them up. "Ok, I trust you" she said in perfect English.

She didn't manage to keep them up, but she tried. Waiting on the brake run we talked briefly, but I didn't apply any kino sadly. As we pulled into the station her boyfriend was waiting for her. She disappeared without saying goodbye.
 

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I can think of one example off the top of my head. I was at Portaventura World and the management are snakes who monetise the front row on their coasters, forcing you to pay if you want to skip the long queues and/or ride the front row.

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I waited till after dark to use my front row pass I'd purchased, and was paired in the front row with a cute Spanish girl, who seemed both excited and nervous. As we climbed the lift I told her to stick her arms and her legs up, which feels like you're falling standing up, and hold them up. "Ok, I trust you" she said in perfect English.

She didn't manage to keep them up, but she tried. Waiting on the brake run we talked briefly, but I didn't apply any kino sadly. As we pulled into the station her boyfriend was waiting for her. She disappeared without saying goodbye.
*so trusting you implicitly because you're a masculine man

This is a gold example Visionist. That lady would strike me as feminine too if I was sitting behind you both on the ride and overheard this.
Thanks, I guess I know what feminine is, just surprised men don't or can't even envision what they'd like to see in a feminine woman with concrete, specific examples...even sex examples.

Thanks again, I agree.
 

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Your making it sound like an impossible shyt sandwhich!
Idk bro, if I found a beautiful and sexy young woman who will submit to me just like that, I’d probably spend a lot less time on here. But even if she did, like if she submit to me and would be sweet and feminine to me but is a bitch to others, that wouldn’t sit right with me. I want someone who is actually good as a person. I swear to God, when I was younger, I was like that. Naively innocent and a good person. And I thought others were too. I’m still looking for that, that sincerity. Lord knows I had my demons too, but those came about due to environment and family, not my own doing. I’ve since worked on all of them. But man it’s still sad. It bothers me because I used to be the type of dude where if I was married, and had a pornstar-looking hottie come into me and straddle me when no one is around and ask me to **** her, I’d have been like “no I’m married”. I’d be kicking myself for the rest of my life after, but I still wouldn’t cheat. And I was like this even after I was redpilled for a little while. But I realized the vast majority of women wouldn’t do that for me, they wouldn’t stop themselves if they were in the same situation. And the thing is, if you actually were to ask any of these women about this, of course they’d say they wouldn’t cheat; most of them would even believe that too. But that’s just because they imagine themselves getting cheated on, and how they’d feel if it happened to them. In reality, they’re just saying cheating is wrong against them. It’s not that they actually are loyal, they just get more fiery jealous than men. They just project that fiery jealousy onto the act of cheating, and assume they would ‘never’ cheat under any circumstances because when you ask them this, they think of themselves getting cheated on, this affecting their mood to have such a strong aversion to cheating. But if you put them in a different mood and play your cards right for long enough, all women will cheat. Bar none. Bar none. Bar none. And I know for a FACT that there are men out there who wouldn’t cheat even if they wanted to because I used to be one of those guys, and also because I still know of quite a few who are still like that. Women? I haven’t met one.

At this point, if I were in a relationship with a woman, I’d cheat on her every chance I got. Your average American woman doesn’t deserve loyalty, they don’t even deserve to know that they’re being cheated on lmao

I’m not in a relationship anyway, and I still am not at the point yet where I’d straight up lie to a girl to get some tail, nor would I actually go out of my way to cheat on a girl (yet). But after a year or so, I really don’t think I can handle this much longer. I’d just have to become an evil POS. I’m hoping it doesn’t get to that but **** me man, it’s a cold war out there lol
 

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Idk bro, if I found a beautiful and sexy young woman who will submit to me just like that, I’d probably spend a lot less time on here. But even if she did, like if she submit to me and would be sweet and feminine to me but is a bitch to others, that wouldn’t sit right with me.
Hey bro if you got it like this, you might as well be happy. That's how a great many are! If your lucky they are down for you and your cause, and might be "bitchy" with most other people.

I want someone who is actually good as a person. I swear to God, when I was younger, I was like that. Naively innocent and a good person. And I thought others were too. I’m still looking for that, that sincerity. Lord knows I had my demons too, but those came about due to environment and family, not my own doing. I’ve since worked on all of them.
Dude there are degrees of "good" and "bad", no body is going to be perfect. If she can be attractive enough, and but over all mostly look after you, you better be grateful!

But man it’s still sad. It bothers me because I used to be the type of dude where if I was married, and had a pornstar-looking hottie come into me and straddle me when no one is around and ask me to **** her, I’d have been like “no I’m married”. I’d be kicking myself for the rest of my life after, but I still wouldn’t cheat.
Porn stars aren't even all that. IF you watch them when they start out earlier, many of them where street hoez or low end strippers and converted, they didn't even look that good at first until makeup, boobs and special affects.

But in anycase, you can have a fine enough wife at home with good sex to the point where you turn down other babes.

And I was like this even after I was redpilled for a little while. But I realized the vast majority of women wouldn’t do that for me, they wouldn’t stop [/themselves if they were in the same situation. And the thing is, if you actually were to ask any of these women about this, of course they’d say they wouldn’t cheat; most of them would even believe that too. But that’s just because they imagine themselves getting cheated on, and how they’d feel if it happened to them. In reality, they’re just saying cheating is wrong against them. It’s not that they actually are loyal, they just get more fiery jealous than men. They just project that fiery jealousy onto the act of cheating, and assume they would ‘never’ cheat under any circumstances because when you ask them this, they think of themselves getting cheated on, this affecting their mood to have such a strong aversion to cheating. But if you put them in a different mood and play your cards right for long enough, all women will cheat. Bar none. Bar none. Bar none. And I know for a FACT that there are men out there who wouldn’t cheat even if they wanted to because I used to be one of those guys, and also because I still know of quite a few who are still like that. Women? I haven’t met one.

At this point, if I were in a relationship with a woman, I’d cheat on her every chance I got. Your average American woman doesn’t deserve loyalty, they don’t even deserve to know that they’re being cheated on lmao
On average you probably are true. In my studies, and I tried to do it "straight and narrow" a small amount of cheating or possibility to cheat might have to remain part of a man to keep the masculine and feminine balance. If you are "too good" to them, they become ungrateful and bad. So it's best to have a small amount of dirt to balance things.


What if you had a great relationship and you did "something" every three months, that you forget about. No addiction to it, no double life, nothing hardly to be tracked. What if that kept things balanced and a wife who kept trying to earn her keep over the years?


I’m not in a relationship anyway, and I still am not at the point yet where I’d straight up lie to a girl to get some tail, nor would I actually go out of my way to cheat on a girl (yet). But after a year or so, I really don’t think I can handle this much longer. I’d just have to become an evil POS. I’m hoping it doesn’t get to that but **** me man, it’s a cold war out there lol
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Gotta talk to babes before you can get puzzy
 

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Hey bro if you got it like this, you might as well be happy. That's how a great many are! If your lucky they are down for you and your cause, and might be "bitchy" with most other people.


Dude there are degrees of "good" and "bad", no body is going to be perfect. If she can be attractive enough, and but over all mostly look after you, you better be grateful!



Porn stars aren't even all that. IF you watch them when they start out earlier, many of them where street hoez or low end strippers and converted, they didn't even look that good at first until makeup, boobs and special affects.

But in anycase, you can have a fine enough wife at home with good sex to the point where you turn down other babes.


On average you probably are true. In my studies, and I tried to do it "straight and narrow" a small amount of cheating or possibility to cheat might have to remain part of a man to keep the masculine and feminine balance. If you are "too good" to them, they become ungrateful and bad. So it's best to have a small amount of dirt to balance things.


What if you had a great relationship and you did "something" every three months, that you forget about. No addiction to it, no double life, nothing hardly to be tracked. What if that kept things balanced and a wife who kept trying to earn her keep over the years?




Gotta have a gf before you can have a relationship
Gotta get puzzy before you get a girlfriend
Gotta talk to babes before you can get puzzy
The problem is, I don’t want “good enough”. That’ll piss me off to all hell. I didn’t wait this long and suffer this much just for “good enough”. Back in my bluepill days, yeah, maybe. But now? No. I know what a woman COULD be. I now know how wonderful they could become, and I know what’s possible and what’s not. I’m making myself into the male version of that with having that dangerous edge within me who’s bold and daring and tries sexually risky things with her, etc. I’m that guy. But I want her to be that girl for me too though. And only for me lol. But that’s too much to ask for. Like dude, when I come across stories of women cooking for their men or washing their clothes or buying them gifts or something, it just feels so foreign to me now. Like, that actually happens? What? I had a friend of mine who said that his ex did that for him (he was telling a story) and I was just like shocked like wtf? Come again? Did I hear that right? Lmao I’m not making this up. But apparently it used to be a thing. And some women still do that? Or maybe women never did and it’s always been a very small select few women throughout history who did those things for their men. Idk lol it really trips me out to think about that. And I feel like it shouldn’t. Like gender roles exist and all that, but to actually imagine a woman doing that for her man, I can’t anymore. Unless it’s like some super old school scenario but it’s always an older middle-aged woman in an advertisement-esque way, never a young girl my age. I can’t comprehend it anymore. The feminists have won ig, I can’t imagine a woman cooking or cleaning anymore.

But at the same time, I know I won’t stand for a woman who doesn’t do those things for me all the time. I’d 100% cheat on her whenever I could lol because if she doesn’t do those things for me, then she’s only useful for her vagina. I can’t trust her to pay for dates or anything, then she’d lose attraction towards me because all women still expect men to fulfill their gender role. I also can’t expect her to help around the house because women don’t ever fulfill their own gender roles nowadays since it’s sexist. Not to mention, we can’t be married either because of how that changes relationship dynamics (even though it shouldn’t); they’ll only change from her end too. Not mention screwy gynocentric laws, which, by the way, also means she especially can’t pay for even utility bills or property taxes or anything like that.

Overall, what are they good for? Talking? Most can’t hold a conversation about anything interesting without turning you into one of their girlfriends and neutering you in the process. It’s ridiculous. Like I said, I can’t imagine a woman fulfilling her gender role anymore, but I know that if she doesn’t, I’ll just straightup cheat since all she’s good for is sex then, because if that’s the case, I might as well act like I’m single lol. She’d also probably be cheating on me anyway. I’d only stay in a relationship with her as social proof to attract more women to me, and also so that I can still have access to sex once the sex supply starts slowing down with other women as I get older. I don’t trust these hoes bro, I don’t like them. At this point in time, “fuck bitches, get money” is the only motto we should live by cuz that’s all that life is really about anymore. Side hobbies too.
 

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ok, I figured out after a few minutes it was going to be all sex related examples and made a bet with myself I wouldn't see any concrete, specific examples of feminine women acting feminine. lol. its ok, I get that concentrating on negatives keeps us all indignant and stronger.
Took me awhile to get this.
Is indigant ever a good thing?
 

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I wish men who think like this could actually write concrete and specific examples they are genuinely experiencing, so that other men know what to also look for.
Example: today this woman dropped off lasagna
Example: yesterday that woman wouldn't leave my bathroom until she was satisfied it was thoroughly cleaned and I didn't ask her to do it.
Example: last Saturday at an event, a woman deferred to me for my knowledgeable opinion on such and such instead of spouting tough, empty talk like a feminist did at the same event

etc etc
"Tough, empty talk"
 

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Is indigant ever a good thing?
glad you asked, no I definitely DON'T think so because one gets stuck in a negative self feedback loop(there's probably a better psychology term)
This is what I once in awhile protest/speak up about.
At what point does one stop commiserating and start leading by example and listing what to look for. When does one leap forward with healing?
I just did the very same thing....I commiserated.
And actually, I came up with a solution upon waking this morning.
 

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"Tough, empty talk"
yes the "we don't need no man, we are strong, independent women" talk of feminists
Posturing.
Actually very weak or wouldn't have to talk tough and empty.
They (I) are hesitant to make the leap to feminine as there is no income replacement, no assured protection.
 
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