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Does it really need to be that strong to “officially” be counted as an IOI?
No, but if you're getting all these IOI, then some of them must be so very strong and unmistakable that you could not have missed them.
 

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But this forum is not necessarily a “fair sample” of men as a whole in terms of attractiveness. How hot are these posters who are “spinning plates”? I would like to know in order to see where I stand. If I am only 180cm tall, living in the USA and would consider myself 4.5/10 in looks, I doubt that I have the genetics to ever be able to live free of sexual frustration due to having a “rota” of girls willing to sleep with me, no matter how much game I learn.
Ask the posters yourself....you will find posts in threads where they say they are spinning hot plates.

As to the rest of your post about having to be tall and good looking in order to get women. It is your limiting beliefs that are damaging your chances of success with women.
The streets are stacked with guys who aren't very good looking, but yet they have hot women. Attraction isn't a choice. A woman is more likely to go home with a not so good looking guy who teases her, rather than a good looking guy who is boring.

I'm a good looking guy, that does initially attract the women, but my character and personality isn't very good at attracting women.
 

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Ask the posters yourself....you will find posts in threads where they say they are spinning hot plates.

As to the rest of your post about having to be tall and good looking in order to get women. It is your limiting beliefs that are damaging your chances of success with women.
The streets are stacked with guys who aren't very good looking, but yet they have hot women. Attraction isn't a choice. A woman is more likely to go home with a not so good looking guy who teases her, rather than a good looking guy who is boring.

I'm a good looking guy, that does initially attract the women, but my character and personality isn't very good at attracting women.
I can confirm in me. My appearance is good, but often something is apparently lacking, interactions stalls. Mature, grown up women are easier, but typically the younger girls freeze. Obviously doesn't apply generally, but I think a problem with good looks can be one's level of attainability becomes too low. One can mock, but after women have approached me they quickly leave, no matter what I say. When I approach, even more problematic.
 

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I don’t subscribe to the theory that there is this small group of chads making the rounds and laying the pipe on the hordes of average and below average women. I just don’t see it in real life. I think it’s far more common for women to have long dry spells than some people here believe.
An article in a central Swedish news paper about incels relayed statistics (I don't know the source/validity but it's probably ok) that twice as many men as women have not had sex the last year. Assuming there are as many men as women in the population (not that unreasonable assumption) I would say that means women share men, or that some men sleep with several. If my math/reasoning is right here, it means solid numbers on that the small group of chads are laying down the pipes, as you say.

Tough to get owned, well I am, some here are not. But I think I'm reaching a point where I don't care like that little boy, but instead focusing on my own life. Like someone else wrote, it's not alpha to compare yourself to others. I cold approached and connected with a girl on the train the other day that turned out to be a "fashion model and helicopter pilot". Lol.
 

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I read through this. Ill just say this and with good intentions. If your sole purpose in life and what causes you mentally is women. Your on the wrong path. Women and dating is important for overall health but should never be this overwhelming to your mental health.
Most of therapy these days from shrinks is hot garbage.
 

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Not sure if mandatory therapy is the answer, but a good read. Good confirmation as to what is often discussed here.

The Rise of Lonely, Single Men
Dating apps and a drastically changing relationship landscape.

IDK. I just do not understand this loneliness BS. Even when I was single, I cannot recall when I was ever lonely. It comes to do the fact they are not striving for the best they can be in life. You should always have something to do. Loneliess is an empty feeling sorry for yourself useless emotion.
 

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Not sure if mandatory therapy is the answer, but a good read. Good confirmation as to what is often discussed here.

The Rise of Lonely, Single Men
Dating apps and a drastically changing relationship landscape.
Definitely a confirmation of what we know already but worth exploring further nonetheless. Personally, aside from the fact that the odds are tilted way in the favor of women on these apps, I feel they are extremely contrived. Everyone only puts the desirable aspects of themselves, or what they view as desirable aspects on these things which creates a superficial dynamic to say the least. My dad was using a dating app at one point and a woman he matched with didn’t even mention she was in a wheelchair. In my case, one woman I met up with from tinder was a solid 50 pounds heavier than what she looked like in her pictures, and had these nasty scars all over her. In fact I met up with a couple others who were major catfishes.

Anyway, so you have a lot of 4’s and 5’s on these apps that can take their pick from sh!tloads of guys, and they only include the “good” parts of themselves that would appear desirable. Not to mention how bizarre it is to be sitting at home swiping on your phone looking for dates. Just my two cents about this.
 

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Come on, man. You don’t have PTSD. I hope you didn’t pay much to whomever diagnosed you. PTSD is when you go to war and see your entire squad blown to pieces right before your eyes. And then you carry your mortally wounded buddy in your arms and hear him breath his final breath. That’s PTSD. Getting rejected by some random broad on a dating app is not PTSD.
I have a friend who was in the military station at Guantánamo Bay and he was more traumatized from ending things with a LTR he really loved than he was from serving in the military (not a simp either, he's pimping). PTSD comes in many forms.
 

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Fair enough, I misread your post. However, I think that PTSD is one of those labels that is thrown around so much that it has largely become meaningless. Just like how every third person is diagnosed with depression and prescribed antidepressants.
You know it when you see it. Take an otherwise healthy person, have a lot of bad sh1t happen to them, and see if they're acting the same way as they did before the bad stuff.
 

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No, but if you're getting all these IOI, then some of them must be so very strong and unmistakable that you could not have missed them.
I had five interactions that were strong enough that I considered them IOIs at the time, but I was not aggressive and fast enough and ended up losing the girls.
 

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I have a friend who was in the military station at Guantánamo Bay and he was more traumatized from ending things with a LTR he really loved than he was from serving in the military (not a simp either, he's pimping). PTSD comes in many forms.
I agree. I can take plenty of beating in whatever situations, it's problems with girls that becomes critical for me. Because that's what's essentially important in our lives. I see it that way, in the end we don't care about a grind or whatever. I've also had a relationship or two that have been shell grenades or so for me, perhaps better at getting over that darn duck.
 

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I don’t subscribe to the theory that there is this small group of chads making the rounds and laying the pipe on the hordes of average and below average women. I just don’t see it in real life. I think it’s far more common for women to have long dry spells than some people here believe.
Yeah I don't think most women care as much about getting laid as the average man.
 

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Yeah I don't think most women care as much about getting laid as the average man.
But why are those theories mutually exclusive? There can be a larger proportion of women without much interest in casual sex who are celibate waiting for commitment from a high-quality man AND Chads locking down multiple sluts each.
 

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In that case, what would you say the bar of looks and height is, which one has to clear in order to get regular casual sex with good enough game? I myself am technically an "Incel" in terms of how little experience I've had and for a long time thought just like one, but I was always seriously committed to making myself NOT an Incel anymore unlike some masochists in the community who enjoy wallowing in self-pity, and after finally getting IOIs from girls (hot ones at that) and failing to act on them correctly, I realised that spending time in Blackpilled forums wasn't going to be of much help, because it became clear that my looks alone weren’t the issue.
I don't think anybody has regular casual sex.

I think a successful man gets laid with a new girl once in a while and his regular sex comes from plates or his girlfriend.

But why are those theories mutually exclusive? There can be a larger proportion of women without much interest in casual sex who are celibate waiting for commitment from a high-quality man AND Chads locking down multiple sluts each.
I think that sounds about right. Most women don't care that much about sex and aren't in a hurry to get into the next relationship

Meanwhile the women that do like to party and have fun tend to be part of Chad's harem
 

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And how do you know that? Let me guess, by watching a show about the Vikings on Netflix? Makes perfect sense that a society with a high level of male mortality due to constant warfare would need to import women…NOT.

As for the article, has anyone noticed the thinly veiled sales pitch? Get individual therapy to improve your dating “skills”….says a website called Psychology Today. Okay then.
Yes, inspired by Netflix show I did some research, watch some documentaries and this fact stood out to me.

This example is kind of far fetched obviously, but what intrigued me about this theory , was that even back then having a woman was something that "just naturally happened ". According to the theory men in that era also " suffered " from lack of potential partners.
 

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I think there is some truth to this.

I personally know a man in his mid 20s that was actively rotating a handful of women on a regular basis. He had one that was a steady side piece for a few years, though he specifically kept her as that and nothing more. It was an interesting dynamic where she actively chased him despite the fact she was being used purely for just easy sex. However, at this same time he'd also have shorter term/casual type relationships with women that would be around for a few months and then be gone. I feel the dynamic with these women was that they were actually pretty normal and were actually looking for something potentially longer term but given enough time they figure him out and eventually they leave the picture. In a manner, this man had taken the first girl off from the dating market and temporarily had the others off as well. From my observations, whenever women are intimate with a man they are far less likely than men to seek out other sexual opportunities and are generally more monogamous/committed.
Back when women had fathers, this wouldn’t happen.

Think about it. If you had a daughter, would you feel good about her being “plated”? I’d presume you’d cut the head off the man who plated her.

…and that’s what happened before the Woke communist government takeover. Women used to have real fathers.

You guys gona eventually figure out that the government has legislated you out of all usefulness to women. Women got big daddy global government to protect them from you raping them all the time. Lol. Common, average men got punked to the max
 

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There are plenty of people that never use dating apps. This includes most women, because most women don't need to use them.
 

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Back when women had fathers, this wouldn’t happen.

Think about it. If you had a daughter, would you feel good about her being “plated”? I’d presume you’d cut the head off the man who plated her.

…and that’s what happened before the Woke communist government takeover. Women used to have real fathers.

You guys gona eventually figure out that the government has legislated you out of all usefulness to women. Women got big daddy global government to protect them from you raping them all the time. Lol. Common, average men got punked to the max
I totally agree and I feel that a huge part of the issue with the dating market is that it's heavily made up of women who grew up in a single parent/father absent household.

This particular side piece for this guy was your typical mixed race child story. A horny and low self esteem white woman who falls for a "bad boy" black man that bounces and is not at all in the picture. This type of behavior has been the norm in black America for decades now but has started creeping into being a more common part of white American culture over the past decade or so. Most educated people are having no children at all or maybe a child at the most, those that are widely reproducing are from lower socioeconomic classes, where this type of behavior is the norm. I feel that over the next couple decades this is going to be the norm with the dating/mating market and family/household life and not the exception.
 

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I totally agree and I feel that a huge part of the issue with the dating market is that it's heavily made up of women who grew up in a single parent/father absent household.

This particular side piece for this guy was your typical mixed race child story. A horny and low self esteem white woman who falls for a "bad boy" black man that bounces and is not at all in the picture. This type of behavior has been the norm in black America for decades now but has started creeping into being a more common part of white American culture over the past decade or so. Most educated people are having no children at all or maybe a child at the most, those that are widely reproducing are from lower socioeconomic classes, where this type of behavior is the norm. I feel that over the next couple decades this is going to be the norm with the dating/mating market and family/household life and not the exception.
I truly feel that if the common man can get it into his tiny little brain that his male leadership has legislated him out of any semblance of a normal, masculine existence - we’ve made progress.

This “blaming women” “female entitlement” thing is boring and false
 

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I truly feel that if the common man can get it into his tiny little brain that his male leadership has legislated him out of any semblance of a normal, masculine existence - we’ve made progress.

This “blaming women” “female entitlement” thing is boring and false
Pretty sure Baphomet is a hermaphrodite lmao

You're just guilt-plagued from pumping and dumping. Women are just as evil as men.
 
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