"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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my opinion: It would appear that this the start of the end of the destructive "you can have it all" femynist meme; perhaps chicks will become more pliable as proper wives?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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my opinion: It would appear that this the start of the end of the destructive "you can have it all" femynist meme; perhaps chicks will become more pliable as proper wives?
There's a long way to go before women give up the "you can have it all" feminist mantra. Women have been fed the "you can have it all" tripe for 50-60 years. "You Go Girl!" stuff has been around since Gloria Steinem made a name for herself in the Second Wave Feminism of the 1960s-1980s.

If you think back to 1900-1969, it was mainly men in the workforce with some unmarried and childless women in some traditionally feminine roles, such as nurse, administrative assistant, K-12 teacher, and medical assistant type roles. Men overwhelmingly dominated both blue collar/physical labor type roles and white collar/mental labor type roles.

When women entered the workforce, not too many of them were focused on blue collar/physical labor type roles. They instead moved from their administrative assistant type roles (think the secretarial pool in "Mad Men") into higher level individual contributor roles into middle to upper management roles in some cases.

What women didn't realize about white collar work is that it is exhausting in a different way compared to manual labor. White collar work involves long hours, stress, and often substance abuse. @LARaiders85 made a good thread about how white collar work impacts your well being. Women don't like the impact of it either, even less than men.

 

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There's a long way to go before women give up the "you can have it all" feminist mantra. Women have been fed the "you can have it all" tripe for 50-60 years. "You Go Girl!" stuff has been around since Gloria Steinem made a name for herself in the Second Wave Feminism of the 1960s-1980s.

If you think back to 1900-1969, it was mainly men in the workforce with some unmarried and childless women in some traditionally feminine roles, such as nurse, administrative assistant, K-12 teacher, and medical assistant type roles. Men overwhelmingly dominated both blue collar/physical labor type roles and white collar/mental labor type roles.

When women entered the workforce, not too many of them were focused on blue collar/physical labor type roles. They instead moved from their administrative assistant type roles (think the secretarial pool in "Mad Men") into higher level individual contributor roles into middle to upper management roles in some cases.

What women didn't realize about white collar work is that it is exhausting in a different way compared to manual labor. White collar work involves long hours, stress, and often substance abuse. @LARaiders85 made a good thread about how white collar work impacts your well being. Women don't like the impact of it either, even less than men.

With today's environment they will get adrenal fatigue (long-term exhaustion) due to stress if they continue on the work/consumerist treadmill at their accustomed paces. "Burnout" isn't just psychological, it's physical as well.
 

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That's why they collect beta orbiters with different skills to be at their beck and call when they need help with things.
 

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Nature want us to do certain things and avoid others.

Nature doesnt want men to spend the entire day speeding and breaking at the same time as much as it doesnt want women to handle situations and settings beyond their purpose.

Lack of action kills masculinity, abundance of intimacy kills femininity.

Even in such case a man living a senseless life that withdraws to bare minimun is still more sane and less miserable than a woman getting it wrong.

Just look at the amount of antidepressants women use, it's getting an epidemic even among teenage ones.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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