"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Are you a good looking guy who got dumped by a chick below your standards?

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You've gone out with super hot chicks but then there was this chick who wasnt a pretty rejected you. Ever happened to you?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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your bitter i can tell.. that's what you get for

1.) settleing
and
2.) not sargeing women that meet your standard

oh and no i haven't anytime i been dumped has been with a girl i wanted and was above or at my standard
 

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verysuave said:
You've gone out with super hot chicks but then there was this chick who wasnt a pretty rejected you. Ever happened to you?
you consider yourself good looking...and more so that as a mate value for women.

how old are you ?

p.s. nothing wrong with the question, just curious to know where your coming from
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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very suave the same **** happens to me!!!, i remember getting rejected by some 3s and 4s and then i got with the 8s that accept me, its fuked up
 

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Happens to me too. I get told I am good looking by women. (not bragging) I get rejected by 6's that are below me, but about 8's they seem to accept me. I think if they are below the guy that much, they kinda think they won't have what it takes, so they reject to protect their ego.
 

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should u care? If you were AFC you should. The last thing on your mind is worrying abut a chick leaving you. LAST THING.
 

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ryannath said:
I think if they are below the guy that much, they kinda think they won't have what it takes, so they reject to protect their ego.
This is true! I was out with a friend of mine and she's a "butter-face" (Everything about her is pretty but her face) We were having lunch and our waiter was a really cute guy!

He was being a little flirty with her, but still professional, she was very rude to him. I didn't see a problem with his behavior. Later she said that "Pretty boys like him are only after a fast fvck! They are worthless ass-holes!" I told her her self esteem was in need of improvement...she was *****y for the rest of the day.

I have seen guys do it as well. Some nasty little toad of a guy walks up to a HB9 and says something like: "You aren't my type, but I'll do you if you pay me enough." It's an AFC doing C&F brutally.
 

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mexican_player2 said:
very suave the same **** happens to me!!!, i remember getting rejected by some 3s and 4s and then i got with the 8s that accept me, its fuked up
Really.. whew, i thought it was just me. Just wanted to also point this out that this thread is pretty informative. Yeah, im talking about you Deus ex Pianoforte. Efing troll

ryannath said:
ppens to me too. I get told I am good looking by women. (not bragging) I get rejected by 6's that are below me, but about 8's they seem to accept me. I think if they are below the guy that much, they kinda think they won't have what it takes, so they reject to protect their ego.
good analysis
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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happened to me

dunno wtf i was thinking at the time

sure as sh|t glad she rejected me now though

stupid fat ugly *****, never get another chance of having a bf in her life
 

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The girl can be butt ugly, but if you act like a desperate, AFC who worships the ground she walks on, then even she will start to think that she can do better.
 

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this type of thing happens to me. Not getting dumped really -- because I wouldn't date an ugly girl -- but being blown off at places. Dance parties and stuff

I think the ugly chicks aren't used to being around guys so they don't know how to handle them very well.
 

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WaterTiger said:
... I was out with a friend of mine and she's a "butter-face" (Everything about her is pretty but her face) ...
:crackup: :up: :crackup:

Oh that was salty....
 

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yeah, I think it happens 'cos they see you as too good for them so you could'nt possibly "really" be into them, you're probably just using them for a quick fuuk and then dump 'em, so they reject you to protect themselves. (If you think about it, can't really blame them either...)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This is just another stupid ass thread created by somebody looking for attention and affirmation. You're trying to create an excuse to brag by thinly veiling this thread as a vague, unimportant question. Then somebody calls them out on it (Duex) and the OP gets his panties in a bunch and resorts back to calling that person the oldest diss in the SoSuave book (troll or AFC). Its so predictable. :moon:
 

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I think less attractive women are less impressed by a guys appearance and more impressed by his substance. Those girls also get led on just to be teased by a lot of guys in high school. I had a neighbor growing up who really wasn't very attractive at all and the cuter guys who were mean would lead her on and let her think they liked her and then publicly crush and humiliate her. I would imagine that she would not trust good looking guys after those cruel experiences.

Then you have a lot of attractive women who only care about looks...and they can be brutal to the less attractive guys.

Smart and attractive women still like the hot guys...but look for substance as well.
 

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Same could go the other way. Although not to the same extent, but if I can't have a conversation with her and she annoys me, it will not last. A smart woman will find a million partners. A smart man looking for a smart woman is dangerously single
 

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Mabye you "good looking" guys aren't as good looking as u think u are...

There's a big difference between being a skinny good looking guy, and a muscular good looking guy.

Also, lest we forget, personality plays a large role.
 
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BluEyes said:
Mabye you "good looking" guys aren't as good looking as u think u are...

There's a big difference between being a skinny good looking guy, and a muscular good looking guy.

Also, lest we forget, personality plays a large role.

Maybe im not a 10 but my gf is an 8 and she finds me very attractive.

REALLY ugly girls have rejected me when i was younger ( had a lot of testosterone and wanted to bang everygirl) and now that i look at them i be like damn i wouldnt even touch that piece of chit

Comparations

she was a number 5

i remember one time i asked out a girl in my school and she was a bit chubby and a geek but kinda cute face ( wtf was i thinkin) she said yeah and i told her to meet at a certain place and i waited and she never arrived then when i saw her she made the most ridicuously excuse.

counterpart

She was a number 8.5

I was at the beach in the hotel's spa and this 2 hot chicks came to me and start talking then i started spittin some game and i chose the hottest one and closed the deal.


So maybe im not that hot, but i rather get accepted by fine fine ass girls rather than rejected by some ugly rats
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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