Are my standards too high/unrealistic?

[sangheilios]

Based on everything you've written, you are "too selective" in comparison the average male. This means you are losing out on a large percentage of opportunities. You're losing out on almost all of them.

You need to keep in mind that we are living in a broken, fallen world. This is the devil's playground. Pretty much everyone you meet is dysfunctional to some noticeable extent. You will either have to accept this reality and date women who have problems (all of them do) or you are going to be alone.

Just about everyone is experimenting with drugs starting from an early age, have parents who are divorced, start watching porn as pre-teens, watching gore videos, have anxiety, suffer from depression, on meds, start getting tats as soon as they leave the house at 18, get fat from fast food, etc.

Not offering any advice, just observations that will help to ground you as to what is "normal." A severely damaged body and psyche are in fact, normal or the statistical average these days.

I don't want to come home to a woman who has a rubber band wrapped around her arm or has little bruises from injecting herself. I realize that every single one of us as individuals have our own issues that we deal with, but there is a certain point where certain things are just unacceptable, which I'm sure you agree with.

I agree though, what is "normal" is in fact anything but. The women that are like me are already taken, unless I steal a girl from another man it is going to be hard for me.

 

[Murk]

Not all women are taken, what is wrong with you guys. I have been on Tinder and Bumble this week and I have a girl local to me coming to my place after work on Thursday, I literally told her to come to mine “what will we do?” “Discuss politics” “sounds fun” “it will be” simple as that.

Also a very hot brunette Scottish girl has agreed for drinks at the weekend (will have to reschedule) and a thick Colombian is free next week after Thursday. Yeah I know I said I would stop chasing but I couldn’t resist.

Maybe some of you guys are just ugly and therefore are going to struggle, in fact, remembering all the guys who have posted pics on here, most are either average or below, maybe time to stop dreaming of that hb8 (or even 6), level up your own SMV and get real.

 

[Serenity]

I'm not creepy about it

I didn't think you were. They're just generally hard to get under such circumstances, being not creepy isn't enough, you have to go above and beyond with your game.

 

[backseatjuan]

The issue is a lot of them already have child(ren)

Thing is, you come across as someone looking for a relationship, that's why you attract women with baggage who are looking for someone to carry it for them. Absolutely nothing wrong with fcking them. Just relax man and realize all good women are taken, you are left with left overs, stop trying to boyfriend and wife the left overs.

 

[marmel75]

I hardly ever go on dates, only two in the past year, and it just honestly seems impossible to find anything out there. I've already posted this about myself on here, but I'm tall, I workout regularly/fit, take care of myself, no smoking, drinking or drugs, college educated and just a good guy all around.

I'm honestly just looking for a woman who is attractive, single, has no children, not covered in tattoos, no unnatural colored hair (pink, blue, green, etc.) doesn't have odd piercings, takes care of herself and is active, doesn't have any issues with drugs, doesn't smoke, does not drink beyond a social level and is just a decent person who is enjoyable to be around. Seriously, is that too much to ask for because I see these as very basic and reasonable standards for someone like myself and yet I just can't find it. The women that do meet this basic criteria are obviously never going to be single, and if they are they won't be that way for very long. I actually do see women that I'm attracted to but they aren't available to me, so there really isn't much I can do about any of that.

If what you are saying is true...that you are tall good looking, in shape and have a good job then I've got some bad news for you.

There is something you are doing that is driving these women away to the point where none of this other stuff matters. And that is very hard to do, especially if you are tall and good looking.

What that is, I'm not sure. It could be being very needy in your interactions, it could be acting in a way that is very offputting to the women, it could be that you are socially inept, it could be that you are a terrible conversationalist and don't know what to say to women.

I have no idea, but this is a much harder fix than a guy who is out of shape. You apparently already are what most women are looking for. The fact that they turn you away so frequently means there is something you are doing that is so bas they are like "Wow...he is good looking but there is NO WAY I can deal with this..." Whatever "this" is. Thats something you are going to have to really take a good hard look at yourself and figure out. Because until you do figure this part out you are going to be spinning your wheels.

I can tell you that when i got in great shape, even being average looking and fairly short, I was killing it with women. The fact that you aren't is concerning

 

[marmel75]

OP, in your other threads you always say how the women are excited when you first talk to them and then when you ask for the number they give you the boyfriend routine.

Next time they say this, look them dead in the eye and respond with

"Oh, thats too bad. You seemed like you might be in the market for an upgrade."

Then smirk and walk away.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Some of the high achievers, business mindset, engineer mindset have a issue talking to the masses. Also the knolwledge of hitting a bunch of checklist items and "being a catch" without being social in the game doesnt work. It stenches of pretentiousness. Glassguy might have some direction how a guy with a mindset like yours can interact properly with the game and have good results.

 

[sangheilios]

If what you are saying is true...that you are tall good looking, in shape and have a good job then I've got some bad news for you.

There is something you are doing that is driving these women away to the point where none of this other stuff matters. And that is very hard to do, especially if you are tall and good looking.

What that is, I'm not sure. It could be being very needy in your interactions, it could be acting in a way that is very offputting to the women, it could be that you are socially inept, it could be that you are a terrible conversationalist and don't know what to say to women.

I have no idea, but this is a much harder fix than a guy who is out of shape. You apparently already are what most women are looking for. The fact that they turn you away so frequently means there is something you are doing that is so bas they are like "Wow...he is good looking but there is NO WAY I can deal with this..." Whatever "this" is. Thats something you are going to have to really take a good hard look at yourself and figure out. Because until you do figure this part out you are going to be spinning your wheels.

I can tell you that when i got in great shape, even being average looking and fairly short, I was killing it with women. The fact that you aren't is concerning

OP, in your other threads you always say how the women are excited when you first talk to them and then when you ask for the number they give you the boyfriend routine.

Next time they say this, look them dead in the eye and respond with

"Oh, thats too bad. You seemed like you might be in the market for an upgrade."

Then smirk and walk away.

I have a lot of friends and acquaintances that genuinely enjoy my company, except they are all men. I don't at all associate with women in any way shape or form, with the exception of my mother and sister.

I can't give an honest answer to any of this because other people that know me don't understand it either. I've been accused of being gay by many people simply because I'm chronically single. I actually do and have been hit on by men quite a few times when I was just minding my own business, so they found me attractive enough to actually pull over to talk to me or approach me at a bar lol.

I've even approached unattractive women at bars before and it never lead to anywhere, and I mention this to show that I'm not just going for the hottest of hottest girls. Granted, bars and clubs are not really a good place to talk to women, as many of them have ***** shields up and put down men on the regular for sport.

 

[sangheilios]

Not all women are taken, what is wrong with you guys. I have been on Tinder and Bumble this week and I have a girl local to me coming to my place after work on Thursday, I literally told her to come to mine “what will we do?” “Discuss politics” “sounds fun” “it will be” simple as that.

Also a very hot brunette Scottish girl has agreed for drinks at the weekend (will have to reschedule) and a thick Colombian is free next week after Thursday. Yeah I know I said I would stop chasing but I couldn’t resist.

Maybe some of you guys are just ugly and therefore are going to struggle, in fact, remembering all the guys who have posted pics on here, most are either average or below, maybe time to stop dreaming of that hb8 (or even 6), level up your own SMV and get real.

Being 6'4" and fit has netted me absolutely nothing on tinder or any OLD site. I tried this as an experiment with tinder a while ago and swiped right on every single profile. All I got matched with was entitled overweight women and single mothers, not a single decent looking female with some degree of quality. Best part was those low quality women actually had attitude lol.

 

[Murk]

You don’t look bad so I have no idea why OLD isn’t paying dividends. Do you get matches and convos? Or just nada

 

[sangheilios]

You don’t look bad so I have no idea why OLD isn’t paying dividends. Do you get matches and convos? Or just nada

As I mentioned with my experiment on tinder, I swiped right on every profile and was only getting matched with unattractive women, most of them being fat and several were single mothers. I would talk to them and it was shocking to see these women act as if they were in a position to make demands as if they were the prize. I wish I had taken screenshots to show you what I'm talking about, but unfortunately I don't.

With regular OLD sites I very rarely would ever get responses to my messages, and no I wasn't saying weird or stupid things, and the few that did respond nothing ever came of it. I just remember the feeling I got from the women on there was that they were just looking for pen pals and validation. This goes as far back as my early to mid 20s through recently, never made any sense to me in the slightest.

I started a new tinder profile last night and I'm just going to leave it active for a while and see if I get anything. The only issue I can think of is my age, 29. Most of the women around my age I've seen on there are not very attractive at all, so I don't swipe right, but those around 25 or younger I have seen a lot. I think what possibly could be going on is that they have their parameters set to show men that aren't as old as I am, so they don't even see me in the first place.

This is why I say OLD just doesn't work for me lol, glad to see someone else is as stumped as I am.

 

[Mike32ct]

Not all women are taken, what is wrong with you guys. I have been on Tinder and Bumble this week and I have a girl local to me coming to my place after work on Thursday, I literally told her to come to mine “what will we do?” “Discuss politics” “sounds fun” “it will be” simple as that.

Also a very hot brunette Scottish girl has agreed for drinks at the weekend (will have to reschedule) and a thick Colombian is free next week after Thursday. Yeah I know I said I would stop chasing but I couldn’t resist.

Maybe some of you guys are just ugly and therefore are going to struggle, in fact, remembering all the guys who have posted pics on here, most are either average or below, maybe time to stop dreaming of that hb8 (or even 6), level up your own SMV and get real.

I don’t disagree. But for guys lower down the looks scale, even going for a looks-match is not easy. A female 5 will typically not be too excited or enthusiastic about a male 5.

Looks-matching works much more efficiently (and easier) at higher tiers. A male 7 won’t have to work too hard to get a female 7. For a male 8 to get a female 8, that should be fairly easy.

 

[SoSuave666]

Your pics look creepy man. And a bit fem on the second pic.

I suggest you get pictures with other people and out and about doing fun things. If I were a chick I wouldn't swipe right either, and it's not because of your aesthetics it's more just the aura you are giving off.

 

[Murk]

Defo sex dungeon vibes

And I agree with the fem, grow a beard you look like you could grow a good one

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I hardly ever go on dates, only two in the past year, and it just honestly seems impossible to find anything out there. I've already posted this about myself on here, but I'm tall, I workout regularly/fit, take care of myself, no smoking, drinking or drugs, college educated and just a good guy all around.

I'm honestly just looking for a woman who is attractive, single, has no children, not covered in tattoos, no unnatural colored hair (pink, blue, green, etc.) doesn't have odd piercings, takes care of herself and is active, doesn't have any issues with drugs, doesn't smoke, does not drink beyond a social level and is just a decent person who is enjoyable to be around. Seriously, is that too much to ask for because I see these as very basic and reasonable standards for someone like myself and yet I just can't find it. The women that do meet this basic criteria are obviously never going to be single, and if they are they won't be that way for very long. I actually do see women that I'm attracted to but they aren't available to me, so there really isn't much I can do about any of that.

I'm getting a incel vibe lol

2yrs? Have you heard of escorts... Wait wut?

Either you have ****ty genetics or yiur game sucks. Likely both.

Female entitlement is absurd these days. Definitely need to put work in and step game up.

 

[sangheilios]

Defo sex dungeon vibes

And I agree with the fem, grow a beard you look like you could grow a good one

What I am about to share is not a judgement of you @sangheilios,
TL;DR Know that your pictures convey much more than simple looks. You are an attractive man. Your photos send mixed messages. Your dominant essence is unclear in your photos. Most women will simply pass. They desire a man who is clear, either way. New photos that convey you and your dominant essence I suspect will bring you results that more clearly match what you most desire.

It's just some picture I took whilst I was on my laptop lol. I don't wear makeup and it is just the way the photo came out due to a combination of lighting and the camera, so no I didn't edit it or anything.

On a side note, it's not any worse than the vast majority of photos I've seen with women on there where they are smoking a blunt, drinking a beer or when they have those weird septum piercings and tons of tattoos.

Anyway, I'm just a normal guy who is more introverted and intellectual and I just like to do my own thing. When I have important decisions to make I always ask for the opinions of others, I thought that was normal, instead of just impulsively doing something without putting any thought into it. I like to exercise/workout/train, take care of my body, make money and besides that just read/learn and hang out with my friends. I don't drink alcohol, smoke or do drugs, I'm educated and just a decent guy all around.

I don't consider myself feminine at all, but I do take care of myself and put effort into my appearance. With people I'm close with I'm always there to help them when they need it but I'm not a doormat for those who don't help me at all. I don't really consider myself hyper masculine though either, mostly because I don't feel the need to prove myself to others. I used to do kickboxing, I have long enjoyed training hard for my fitness goals, which I guess those are considered more masculine qualities. I've personally found that other men who behave aggressively comes more from insecurity, like they always have to appear tough or what not. I'm honestly just a pretty laid back guy who just wants to enjoy life, be happy and have good people around.

As for the gay men hitting on me, it's literally happened when I was completely minding my own business. One happened when I was walking down the street with my dog, this was a while ago, and I was just wearing athletic clothes. Anyway, that particular guy pulled over and started asking me questions about my dog but then before leaving he revealed his true intent when he was complimenting my physique.

Other times it's been just sitting down on a couch at a local club, he actually came up and approached me. Most of the time it's just stuff like winking at me or whatever lol.

Last summer one of my friends was dating this girl briefly and when we were all hanging out we actually discussed this, the men hitting on me, and he asked her what she thought about it. Anyway, she made some comment about the fact that I had a nice body and that the clothes I weared showed it off, she made a specific mention of how my glutes looked while I was wearing jeans.

I can honestly say though that women who grew up in a bad environment or with a useless or absent father figure would probably not know what to do with a guy like me. A couple years ago I dated a mexican girl here in AZ, she was 19, and she grew up and lived in a very bad neighborhood. Anyway, when I'd have her over to my place I'd always ask her if she needed anything to drink or when she was in my car if she was comfortable with the A/C, stuff like that. I remember she ended up saying that when I did that it made her feel uncomfortable like I was doing those things out of insecurity and wanted something from her.....when I was just trying to be a good guy with her. I wouldn't consider that a feminine quality but for someone with her upbringing it would have been perceived as weak and needy, as the men she would have been around her whole life would have been neglectful and completely uncaring.

 

[sangheilios]

Defo sex dungeon vibes

And I agree with the fem, grow a beard you look like you could grow a good one

I've had several people tell me that and one of my friends tried to pressure me into trying it. I asked him why and he said it was because he wouldn't be able to and was jealous.

Personally, the thought of having a beard just does not appeal to me at all, I prefer a more clean cut appearance, with maybe a bit of stubble at the most.

 

[SoSuave666]

I've had several people tell me that and one of my friends tried to pressure me into trying it. I asked him why and he said it was because he wouldn't be able to and was jealous.

Personally, the thought of having a beard just does not appeal to me at all, I prefer a more clean cut appearance, with maybe a bit of stubble at the most.

You will look better with a beard. Up to you on taking the advice

 

[zekko]

I'm honestly just looking for a woman who is attractive, single, has no children, not covered in tattoos, no unnatural colored hair (pink, blue, green, etc.) doesn't have odd piercings, takes care of herself and is active, doesn't have any issues with drugs, doesn't smoke, does not drink beyond a social level and is just a decent person who is enjoyable to be around.

These are the girls everybody wants, for the most part.

 

[allancc3]

Dude could've gotten laid in the time he spent writing up all his excuses.