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Any married Djs or those in LTRs, what's your opinion on using hookers?

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I don't feel it has anything to do with luck, just learning what works and what doesn't and then doing it over and over again.
This is where "chadsplaining" comes in. If you have the looks and are able to line up your calendar with dates from OLD then you have the luxury of learning what works and what does not. Imagine if you only had one date once every other month or less, then you don't really get to learn what works or doesn't work, anymore than a pilot learns how to better fly a plane after a catastrophic crash.
 

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flowtheory said:
I think paying for sex is communicating to your own self and subconscious that you aren't able to connect naturally with your own inner energy to achieve human affection; something we feel to be a need at times. So it leaves the door open on feeling disconnected and discontented. Paying for sex, as I may surmise, will have an insidious effect on one's self-esteem. It feels good immediately after, yet holds ramifications days, months, or years down the line. Because when he goes to chat up a woman in a bar, he isn't actually equipped for that as he is operating under the guise of being able to do something which he cannot yet. Operating out of his field of competence and social calibration in a natural way.
I have written extensively and I'm really trying to connect with something rational. I'm assuming you have not read my other posts concerning this subject. The experience, I had, as I stated earlier, is too "Room-101" ish to have a rational reflection where I can see there is an issue with self-esteem. The experience after was too dramatic and the effects point to a spiritual darkness and demonic realm that overshadows any rational reflection. For to me to have even a reflection, I'd probably have to get the Room-101 thing out of the equation. The past experience was way too hyped out if I'm comparing it to scenes out of the Matrix movie. The only solution with that would be to see more hookers, which I'm not going to be doing.

The last hooker I saw was before my government changed the laws before midnight and made it illegal to buy sex and believed I was panic buying at the last minute. I'm not sure what that would communicate to my own self or subconcious. It took the government changing a law to motivate me to see a hooker. I saw her at around 11:00 pm, an hour before the actual change of the law.

Laws don't change like this all the time, so it's unlikely a similar motivation, under similar circumstances would exist that would trigger me to visit a hooker. I think that's a heavy factor that would influence motivation. The pandemic has also taught us that people will panic buy at the last minute to avoid not running out of toilet paper. So, the principle of panic buying seems to infect people across the board. The overall effects of panic buying sex before a government change of law still sounds too Orwellian and could cross-wire some science fiction tropes in the process. It comes like Julia and Winston or something in the book 1984.

Everything else you wrote is noted. Thanks for your input.

At the end of the day this was all in my mind. The laws may have changed, but the culture still remained the same and it became just another law "in the books" that's rarely, if ever, actually enforced.
 

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OP, I think what you’re asking is normal. All men want variety no matter how hot or great their woman is. It’s just biological.

if you don’t want sex just hit up the strip club and get a few private dances. It’s cheaper than an escort.

Do NOT tell your wife. It should be obvious, but the “honesty” brainwashing bullshvt is ruining relationships left and right.
 

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This is where "chadsplaining" comes in. If you have the looks and are able to line up your calendar with dates from OLD then you have the luxury of learning what works and what does not. Imagine if you only had one date once every other month or less, then you don't really get to learn what works or doesn't work, anymore than a pilot learns how to better fly a plane after a catastrophic crash.
C'mon man. Stop the silliness. Contrary to near universal belief you don't need to be "Chad" to do well on OLD. Does it make it easier? Of course.

I have a good build and am probably a 6 or 6.5. Nothing special. I get anywhere from 6-8's on there, usually most are 6.5 to 7.5s, which I am perfectly good with. I have dated enough 8s and 9s in my younger years(when I was a club DJ) to know they are usually more trouble than they are worth...and usually not great once the clothes come off.

Do pics matter? Yes but so does your profile and how you interact with them. My interactions and ability to send interesting and fun messages/texts builds excitement for them to meet me and then sometimes I will talk to them on the phone and that only heightens it further.

The problem most guys make is they think they can be dull, boring and uninteresting and it's only looks based. Saying stuff like "Hey" or "What's up" or anything 90% of other guys are saying groups you in with those dull, boring, uninteresting guys. Instead you want her to group you in with the other 10% of guys she thinks are different or fun, etc...

Also they simply don't build pipelines. They send 3 or 4 messages out and if that doesn't work they get discouraged. OLD is a numbers game to some degree as well and if you aren't willing to send out 15 or 20 messages then your results will be limited. If you continue to send out 5 to 10 new messages a day after getting some off the initial 15 to 20 you will build a viable pipeline and always have new women to meet and talk to...I got to a point where I was meeting 5 to 6 new women a week and it started getting a little out of control and became too much.

So honestly if guys are having issues in OLD most times it isn't because of their pics...it is because their profiles suck(yes many women DO read them), and they have no ability to communicate in any form of interesting way that would want to make a woman interested in meeting them.
 

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if you don’t want sex just hit up the strip club and get a few private dances. It’s cheaper than an escort.
I'm keyboard jockeying here as I've never been to a strip club, but it doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about them as to why I would avoid a place like that. First of all, there are other guys in a strip club, and that might remind you of how you look like, looking at other women like that. You would be reminded that you are dirty and might get turned off. This is something that only works if you are not aware of who you, or what type of guy you are, and that part of the brain has to be shut off temporarily for the spell to work. Guys of good character do not go to such places period.

Is it really cheaper? I think it's more expensive. Anything that's a smaller expense can add up and comes like a frog in slowly boiling water. Don't assume you'll be satisfied with one private dance, you'll want more and more, etc... An escort is more calculated and controlled and you don't go over budget, and even if you don't have sex, doesn't mean you won't end up releasing, which is what you would want to do if you get aroused like that at a strip club. I paid $ 60.00, and I doubt I would have saved money at a strip club, I'd probably feel like a fish out of water and just walk out of the venue. If I saw any other guy inside that place, I probably would have ran out of there. It's like you have to feel like you are the only guy there dealing with her.

This is probably one of the reasons I felt shocked afterwards, it's because I basically lied to myself on some level for the whole thing to work. The shock in the system that she's seeing allot of other guys is just horrific. You can't just trick yourself like that and expect the experience to hold.
 

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I'm keyboard jockeying here as I've never been to a strip club, but it doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about them as to why I would avoid a place like that. First of all, there are other guys in a strip club, and that might remind you of how you look like, looking at other women like that. You would be reminded that you are dirty and might get turned off. This is something that only works if you are not aware of who you, or what type of guy you are, and that part of the brain has to be shut off temporarily for the spell to work. Guys of good character do not go to such places period.

Is it really cheaper? I think it's more expensive. Anything that's a smaller expense can add up and comes like a frog in slowly boiling water. Don't assume you'll be satisfied with one private dance, you'll want more and more, etc... An escort is more calculated and controlled and you don't go over budget, and even if you don't have sex, doesn't mean you won't end up releasing, which is what you would want to do if you get aroused like that at a strip club. I paid $ 60.00, and I doubt I would have saved money at a strip club, I'd probably feel like a fish out of water and just walk out of the venue. If I saw any other guy inside that place, I probably would have ran out of there. It's like you have to feel like you are the only guy there dealing with her.

This is probably one of the reasons I felt shocked afterwards, it's because I basically lied to myself on some level for the whole thing to work. The shock in the system that she's seeing allot of other guys is just horrific. You can't just trick yourself like that and expect the experience to hold.
Strip clubs are stupid. That's paying just to look at and get scammed by gold diggers.
 
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