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Ambiguity
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alphamale1
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check out some of ross jeffries stuff, he teaches ambigous well
I agree, RJ is a god of ambiguity!
Something like this (shortened):
'You know when you are having a great kiss, and you get THAT feeling, at times like that its hard not to focus in on WHERE that feeling flows next'
Its effective because you are allowing the woman to fill in her own details, rather than substituting in your own understanding. It also gives an implied message that you are someone who understands how to make her feel this way. An AFC would say the sentance this way:
'You know when you are having a great kiss, and you get that feeling of butterflys in your stomach, when you feel that way, you may also notice a heat flush'
The statement may be true, but its not as effective.
Something like this (shortened):
'You know when you are having a great kiss, and you get THAT feeling, at times like that its hard not to focus in on WHERE that feeling flows next'
Its effective because you are allowing the woman to fill in her own details, rather than substituting in your own understanding. It also gives an implied message that you are someone who understands how to make her feel this way. An AFC would say the sentance this way:
'You know when you are having a great kiss, and you get that feeling of butterflys in your stomach, when you feel that way, you may also notice a heat flush'
The statement may be true, but its not as effective.
spidersense
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just wanted to make a note here, Ross Jeffries is great at certain things like ambiguity, but I wouldn't take seriously much of the NLP stuff he teaches, like embedded commands. The stuff he teaches to use on yourself is great, some of the best around, but the NLP stuff he teaches to use on women and other people, for the most part is BS. IT WORKS, but it takes weeks, or months to really have the effect that he says only takes 15 mins. I've done some studying of NLP and that is what I've learned.
I have seen some great results from some of his stuff, very quickly after I learned it.
The same could not be said for some of the other 'gurus' such as DeAngelo whose C+F takes months to get right, and actually cost me a number of nice oppertunities.
The same could not be said for some of the other 'gurus' such as DeAngelo whose C+F takes months to get right, and actually cost me a number of nice oppertunities.
Yeah, great reply R3N3GAD3 :/
Does the fact I said it takes months to get right, not imply that I spent months getting it right? Because I did.
Does the fact that I said it cost me a couple of oppertunities not imply that I made **** ups at the start? Because I did.
Just to clearup the issue, Deangelo was my starting point on this whole scene, I respect his 'inner-game' stuff - this was very useful. I also respect his structured approach.
The thread was about ambiguity, which we agreed Ross was very good at. I also think the NLP works great depending on your starting point, mine was from a DD background.
Check your facts before you shoot in future, there is no harm in learning from as many sources as possible so long as you actually go out and put the knowledge into practice.
Does the fact I said it takes months to get right, not imply that I spent months getting it right? Because I did.
Does the fact that I said it cost me a couple of oppertunities not imply that I made **** ups at the start? Because I did.
Just to clearup the issue, Deangelo was my starting point on this whole scene, I respect his 'inner-game' stuff - this was very useful. I also respect his structured approach.
The thread was about ambiguity, which we agreed Ross was very good at. I also think the NLP works great depending on your starting point, mine was from a DD background.
Check your facts before you shoot in future, there is no harm in learning from as many sources as possible so long as you actually go out and put the knowledge into practice.
abcd_z
Senior Don Juan
Hey, you know what I like?
http://www.fastseduction.com
Posters like Gunwitch, Formhandle, ijjjjji, Mystery, and TylerDurden all spring to mind. Each one has their own unique style that incorporates techniques learned from others, and each one has a sh*tload more tools to learn from than just "neg-hits, C+F, and RJ-style". There's that stuff too, but...well, just check it out.
http://www.fastseduction.com
Posters like Gunwitch, Formhandle, ijjjjji, Mystery, and TylerDurden all spring to mind. Each one has their own unique style that incorporates techniques learned from others, and each one has a sh*tload more tools to learn from than just "neg-hits, C+F, and RJ-style". There's that stuff too, but...well, just check it out.