"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I was reading the article on the main page of sosuave.com and found this topic very interesting. Can anyone give examples of how to be ambigious? Also how effective do you think this method is?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I agree, RJ is a god of ambiguity!

Something like this (shortened):

'You know when you are having a great kiss, and you get THAT feeling, at times like that its hard not to focus in on WHERE that feeling flows next'

Its effective because you are allowing the woman to fill in her own details, rather than substituting in your own understanding. It also gives an implied message that you are someone who understands how to make her feel this way. An AFC would say the sentance this way:

'You know when you are having a great kiss, and you get that feeling of butterflys in your stomach, when you feel that way, you may also notice a heat flush'

The statement may be true, but its not as effective.
 

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I have also seen Ross use this technique, with some of his others, to give a woman an orgasm in about five minutes just by speaking to her. One of the most amazing things I have ever seen.
 

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were can i find ross jeffries stuff? thanks for your comments guys
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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just wanted to make a note here, Ross Jeffries is great at certain things like ambiguity, but I wouldn't take seriously much of the NLP stuff he teaches, like embedded commands. The stuff he teaches to use on yourself is great, some of the best around, but the NLP stuff he teaches to use on women and other people, for the most part is BS. IT WORKS, but it takes weeks, or months to really have the effect that he says only takes 15 mins. I've done some studying of NLP and that is what I've learned.
 

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I have seen some great results from some of his stuff, very quickly after I learned it.

The same could not be said for some of the other 'gurus' such as DeAngelo whose C+F takes months to get right, and actually cost me a number of nice oppertunities.
 

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deangelos stuff works if you use it right he says u will make ****ups at the starts. I think david deangelos techniques are great.
 

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Originally posted by sixtyfwee
I have seen some great results from some of his stuff, very quickly after I learned it.

The same could not be said for some of the other 'gurus' such as DeAngelo whose C+F takes months to get right, and actually cost me a number of nice oppertunities.

:rolleyes:

Shut up and put some wrok into it, jesus.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Yeah, great reply R3N3GAD3 :/

Does the fact I said it takes months to get right, not imply that I spent months getting it right? Because I did.

Does the fact that I said it cost me a couple of oppertunities not imply that I made **** ups at the start? Because I did.

Just to clearup the issue, Deangelo was my starting point on this whole scene, I respect his 'inner-game' stuff - this was very useful. I also respect his structured approach.

The thread was about ambiguity, which we agreed Ross was very good at. I also think the NLP works great depending on your starting point, mine was from a DD background.

Check your facts before you shoot in future, there is no harm in learning from as many sources as possible so long as you actually go out and put the knowledge into practice.
 

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Ross jeffries is good at what he does but i prefer the DD approach, i feel DD helps you improve on yourself but ross jeffries stuff is more like manipulation :/
 

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Hey, you know what I like?
http://www.fastseduction.com
Posters like Gunwitch, Formhandle, ijjjjji, Mystery, and TylerDurden all spring to mind. Each one has their own unique style that incorporates techniques learned from others, and each one has a sh*tload more tools to learn from than just "neg-hits, C+F, and RJ-style". There's that stuff too, but...well, just check it out.
 

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thanks man thats the first site i found before i found this one havnt been on it in a while tho...thanks
 
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