"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have a lot of unusual fantasies.

I’d like a woman to just be an exhibitionist of sorts, like a strip club but in real life…walking around naked, serving me nachos and drinks…cuddling with me while watching married with children (and actually thinking the show is funny, not just for my sake.)

I’d like to do a nude photo session with a woman…in bed together, even in sexual positions…not porn…just posing…or even a regular photo shoot where we’re two models and I’m behind her with my hands on her breasts like that Janet Jackson album cover from the 90s.


In general, 90 percent of the porn I look at is just women walking around after sex, their asses moving from left to right, or women skinny dipping.

Am I some kind of voyeur/exhibitionist/pervert?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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This is serious. I'm wondering if I asked a woman to indulge, if she'd think I was a weirdo.
 
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confusedstate said:
Am I some kind of voyeur/exhibitionist/pervert?
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Ooh, this one's easy. Ahem.

No.

If you start having fantasies about centaurs, then MAYBE. But no.
 
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confusedstate said:
This is serious. I'm wondering if I asked a woman to indulge, if she'd think I was a weirdo.
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You don't even want to know what I've had women indulge. Then again, maybe you do.

Anyone want some Shogun stories while I'm on my no-masturbation challenge?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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We're males, we're all perverts. Get used to it.
 
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Most of my GF have been into getting naked pictures shot and showing off their bodies. Several have stripped down in places that were technically public for a quick nudie photo series. Sex in places that are dangerous", etc.

Pretty girls like to see themselves and be admired. Simple.
 
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Lol wtf, I'm sure there are some people who might call you a "pervert" but who the hell cares ?! I don't particularly care for all that sh*t you mentioned ("married with children"...LOL) but if that's what you like, go out and get it!

You'll be surprised at how women will adapt for YOU when you're absolutely certain about what you want. As long as it's not illegal and doesn't cross your own personal moral boundaries, then go out and have fun!
 
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This is way less weird than being turned on by an extreme closeup of penis going into a vagina, stripped of all context. So you admire the female form. Why would that be weird?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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TheBucketOfTruth said:
This is way less weird than being turned on by an extreme closeup of penis going into a vagina, stripped of all context. So you admire the female form. Why would that be weird?
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Correct. There's nothing wrong with admiring the female form in fact it means that you are a perfectly healthy male.

If you were into looking at naked guys well then that's another story :eek:
 
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The other thing I want, for an LTR anyway, is for the girl to be really into fashion (I’m really into fashion but not into the latest trends, just care about wearing good outfits and being clean cut) and I’d like a girl to wear nice dresses/secretary outfits…nice blouses etc…so we can look like one of those power couples where women check me out and guys check her out lol.

Yes I’m aware I’m weird and an attention-wh0re.
 
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The other thing I want, for an LTR anyway, is for the girl to be really into fashion (I’m really into fashion but not into the latest trends, just care about wearing good outfits and being clean cut) and I’d like a girl to wear nice dresses/secretary outfits…nice blouses etc…so we can look like one of those power couples where women check me out and guys check her out lol.

Yes I’m aware I’m weird and an attention-wh0re.
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I was just gonna say, you sound a bit like a stereotypical "chick."

This thread got very Cosmo very fast.

Quick! Someone bust out a story of manliness all over this thread's A cup chest!
 
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To get back to the original topic…I have a picture of the type of body I like but I’m not sure if nude pics are allowed here?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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