"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Aaron Clarey: Short Men Must Go Overseas

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Do you think that has something to do with your looks?
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Probably. I think being decent looking gives one positive reinforcement. And. The realization that part of one’s success is due to looks. This positive (dopamine) feedback loop motivates one to take care of oneself. (work out, skin care, eat right…). I can see the contrast with my friends. Most are middle aged, as I am. And they are Maybe 3.5-5.5/10. But. They dont work out. They have health issues. And lead boring lives.
 

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Bingo! There's no separation between mind and body. What goes on in the mind goes on in the body and visa versa.
 

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Height can be compensated, but to a certain level. If you're to short, it really cannot be
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If one can still get girls at whatever height they are. They’re not too short.
Sure, this is water. But it's really that you're more for the niche, and not for the all woman, because height it's one of the requirements for masculinity
 

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Height > Face according to me

@Mike32ct always says The Big 3 are height, hair, and money.
The big three: Power, power, and power.

Granted men don’t need to have that to get women, but it’s the most efficient yet hardest to get.
 

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Sure, this is water. But it's really that you're more for the niche, and not for the all woman, because height it's one of the requirements for masculinity
Very, very few men appeal to all women.
If it is ‘niche’. As long as the ‘niche’ is enough quantity & quality, that’s fine.
 

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I’ve seen tall incels. I’ve never seen a handsome incel.
I have, but they always have mental issues.

Then again, pretty much all incels have mental issues so this is prob true in general.

Being highly neurodivergent/autistic is probably the single biggest handicap to being good with women aside from being born with a literal micropenis. I think even physical deformities might even be below being highly neurodivergent.
 

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I have, but they always have mental issues.

Then again, pretty much all incels have mental issues so this is prob true in general.

Being highly neurodivergent/autistic is probably the single biggest handicap to being good with women aside from being born with a literal micropenis. I think even physical deformities might even be below being highly neurodivergent.
Yep. Most, if not all, of the incels I know have some sort of mental or personality disorder.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I am 5’9, age 50, and have a full head of black hair. Earn in the low 100ks. I do OK. There is not a darn thing I can do about my height that I would want to do. So why worry about it?
 

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I’ve never seen a handsome incel.
My handsome, 6’1” friend was an incel all through college, but that was from self-doubt and self-sabotage. So I suppose it can happen. After he got a girlfriend in his early 20’s he was never an incel again.

I was incel all through high school, but I later found out
Masculinity is a mindset. Who the fvck told you "oh he's tall, he must be masculine" Who are you hanging out with?

Look at @CornbreadFed, he's 6'1" and was DEERing and threatening another member to report him cause he felt offended by what some random dude in the internet who lives with his parents wrote on one of his posts, that's not very masculine if you ask me.
What’s DEERing?
 

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Defense, excuse, explain, rationalize. Its from the book No More Mr. Nice Guy. Typically when a man is so ingrained in his wife's frame, that he's scared of her emotions, that whenever he wants to do something, he has to DEER.

Example: Baby I'm going with the boys to drink and talk $hit, his wifes gets upset, then guy proceeds to DEER "But baby its being a while since I've gone with the boys" or "Baby it will only for 1 hour" or "Baby I want some time with the boys"

Its a form of being afraid of rocking the boat, that the guy thinks the wife or ltr will leave him. But it can be related to everything, when you try to explain something y being afraid of consequences.

Thanks for that. I read NMMNG a long time ago, in the late aughts and attempted a reread last summer but didn’t finish. Obviously I forgot what DEER is.

I was a phone client of Dr. Glover in 2009z
 

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My handsome, 6’1” friend was an incel all through college, but that was from self-doubt and self-sabotage. So I suppose it can happen. After he got a girlfriend in his early 20’s he was never an incel again.

I was incel all through high school, but I later found out
What’s DEERing?
In HS I hung out with the gamer nerd crew. We were the anti-popular edge lords. So. I was a HS incel too.
 

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In HS I hung out with the gamer nerd crew. We were the anti-popular edge lords. So. I was a HS incel too.
Got it. I apparently didn’t finish my post before. I meant I was incel in high school but from self defeatism and lack of social acuity. I actually wound up fooling around with a woman after high school who told me she had a crush on me in high school. I didn’t even know who she was until I met her through an introduction.

There was even a pretty classmate who told my friends, “He can have a girl but he acts like he can’t.” Keep in mind this was a woman I barely spoke to besides “hi” and “bye”.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Got it. I apparently didn’t finish my post before. I meant I was incel in high school but from self defeatism and lack of social acuity. I actually wound up fooling around with a woman after high school who told me she had a crush on me in high school. I didn’t even know who she was until I met her through an introduction.

There was even a pretty classmate who told my friends, “He can have a girl but he acts like he can’t.” Keep in mind this was a woman I barely spoke to besides “hi” and “bye”.
I had a Oneitis in HS. But, like my nerd buddies, was too shy & self conscois to approach. Someone told her I had a crush on her and she supposedly replied. ‘Well, why doesn’t he just talk to me then?’.
 

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I always been curious about which profession could give you the possibility to gain NT and Social experience in the right way, while incresasing power, status, money.
I see that being a computer engineer or software developer gives you money, but life behind the PC for most of your day, it's not good. I am very good at this, but I've realized that lowering my income, and being in another profession with the above pre-quisites, could give you another type of life satysfation. And having other activities such as sports, social circles, is not enough when you work 9 to 5.

So the quest for me, I suppose, it's "What profession, activities (or more than one) could I do for my everyday life?"
I've heard someone say "A man it's what he decide NOT to do, instead of what to do".
We have to chose our time wisely
 
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