Aaron Clarey: Short Men Must Go Overseas

[Plinco]

And I am healthy, comfortable & professionally successful.

Do you think that has something to do with your looks?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Do you think that has something to do with your looks?
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Probably. I think being decent looking gives one positive reinforcement. And. The realization that part of one’s success is due to looks. This positive (dopamine) feedback loop motivates one to take care of oneself. (work out, skin care, eat right…). I can see the contrast with my friends. Most are middle aged, as I am. And they are Maybe 3.5-5.5/10. But. They dont work out. They have health issues. And lead boring lives.

 

[Plinco]

Bingo! There's no separation between mind and body. What goes on in the mind goes on in the body and visa versa.

 

[jhonny9546]

Height can be compensated, but to a certain level. If you're to short, it really cannot be

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Height can be compensated, but to a certain level. If you're to short, it really cannot be

If one can still get girls at whatever height they are. They’re not too short.

 

[jhonny9546]

If one can still get girls at whatever height they are. They’re not too short.

Sure, this is water. But it's really that you're more for the niche, and not for the all woman, because height it's one of the requirements for masculinity

 

[Manure Spherian]

Height > Face according to me

@Mike32ct always says The Big 3 are height, hair, and money.

The big three: Power, power, and power.

Granted men don’t need to have that to get women, but it’s the most efficient yet hardest to get.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Sure, this is water. But it's really that you're more for the niche, and not for the all woman, because height it's one of the requirements for masculinity

Very, very few men appeal to all women.
If it is ‘niche’. As long as the ‘niche’ is enough quantity & quality, that’s fine.

 

[MajesticOne]

I’ve seen tall incels. I’ve never seen a handsome incel.

I have, but they always have mental issues.

Then again, pretty much all incels have mental issues so this is prob true in general.

Being highly neurodivergent/autistic is probably the single biggest handicap to being good with women aside from being born with a literal micropenis. I think even physical deformities might even be below being highly neurodivergent.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I have, but they always have mental issues.

Then again, pretty much all incels have mental issues so this is prob true in general.

Being highly neurodivergent/autistic is probably the single biggest handicap to being good with women aside from being born with a literal micropenis. I think even physical deformities might even be below being highly neurodivergent.

Yep. Most, if not all, of the incels I know have some sort of mental or personality disorder.

 

[logicallefty]

I am 5’9, age 50, and have a full head of black hair. Earn in the low 100ks. I do OK. There is not a darn thing I can do about my height that I would want to do. So why worry about it?

 

[Manure Spherian]

I’ve never seen a handsome incel.

My handsome, 6’1” friend was an incel all through college, but that was from self-doubt and self-sabotage. So I suppose it can happen. After he got a girlfriend in his early 20’s he was never an incel again.

I was incel all through high school, but I later found out

Masculinity is a mindset. Who the fvck told you "oh he's tall, he must be masculine" Who are you hanging out with?

Look at @CornbreadFed, he's 6'1" and was DEERing and threatening another member to report him cause he felt offended by what some random dude in the internet who lives with his parents wrote on one of his posts, that's not very masculine if you ask me.

What’s DEERing?

 

[Manure Spherian]

Defense, excuse, explain, rationalize. Its from the book No More Mr. Nice Guy. Typically when a man is so ingrained in his wife's frame, that he's scared of her emotions, that whenever he wants to do something, he has to DEER.

Example: Baby I'm going with the boys to drink and talk $hit, his wifes gets upset, then guy proceeds to DEER "But baby its being a while since I've gone with the boys" or "Baby it will only for 1 hour" or "Baby I want some time with the boys"

Its a form of being afraid of rocking the boat, that the guy thinks the wife or ltr will leave him. But it can be related to everything, when you try to explain something y being afraid of consequences.

Thanks for that. I read NMMNG a long time ago, in the late aughts and attempted a reread last summer but didn’t finish. Obviously I forgot what DEER is.

I was a phone client of Dr. Glover in 2009z

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My handsome, 6’1” friend was an incel all through college, but that was from self-doubt and self-sabotage. So I suppose it can happen. After he got a girlfriend in his early 20’s he was never an incel again.

I was incel all through high school, but I later found out
What’s DEERing?

In HS I hung out with the gamer nerd crew. We were the anti-popular edge lords. So. I was a HS incel too.

 

[Manure Spherian]

In HS I hung out with the gamer nerd crew. We were the anti-popular edge lords. So. I was a HS incel too.

Got it. I apparently didn’t finish my post before. I meant I was incel in high school but from self defeatism and lack of social acuity. I actually wound up fooling around with a woman after high school who told me she had a crush on me in high school. I didn’t even know who she was until I met her through an introduction.

There was even a pretty classmate who told my friends, “He can have a girl but he acts like he can’t.” Keep in mind this was a woman I barely spoke to besides “hi” and “bye”.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Got it. I apparently didn’t finish my post before. I meant I was incel in high school but from self defeatism and lack of social acuity. I actually wound up fooling around with a woman after high school who told me she had a crush on me in high school. I didn’t even know who she was until I met her through an introduction.

There was even a pretty classmate who told my friends, “He can have a girl but he acts like he can’t.” Keep in mind this was a woman I barely spoke to besides “hi” and “bye”.

I had a Oneitis in HS. But, like my nerd buddies, was too shy & self conscois to approach. Someone told her I had a crush on her and she supposedly replied. ‘Well, why doesn’t he just talk to me then?’.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Never had the courage to do anything. If I only can go back with all this knowledge...

Same here.

 

[manfrombelow]

Remind me how this is "Don Juan Discussion" again?

 

[jhonny9546]

I always been curious about which profession could give you the possibility to gain NT and Social experience in the right way, while incresasing power, status, money.
I see that being a computer engineer or software developer gives you money, but life behind the PC for most of your day, it's not good. I am very good at this, but I've realized that lowering my income, and being in another profession with the above pre-quisites, could give you another type of life satysfation. And having other activities such as sports, social circles, is not enough when you work 9 to 5.

So the quest for me, I suppose, it's "What profession, activities (or more than one) could I do for my everyday life?"
I've heard someone say "A man it's what he decide NOT to do, instead of what to do".
We have to chose our time wisely