Plinco
Master Don Juan
Do you think that has something to do with your looks?And I am healthy, comfortable & professionally successful.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Do you think that has something to do with your looks?And I am healthy, comfortable & professionally successful.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Do you think that has something to do with your looks?
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Probably. I think being decent looking gives one positive reinforcement. And. The realization that part of one’s success is due to looks. This positive (dopamine) feedback loop motivates one to take care of oneself. (work out, skin care, eat right…). I can see the contrast with my friends. Most are middle aged, as I am. And they are Maybe 3.5-5.5/10. But. They dont work out. They have health issues. And lead boring lives.
If one can still get girls at whatever height they are. They’re not too short.Height can be compensated, but to a certain level. If you're to short, it really cannot be
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Sure, this is water. But it's really that you're more for the niche, and not for the all woman, because height it's one of the requirements for masculinityIf one can still get girls at whatever height they are. They’re not too short.
The big three: Power, power, and power.
Very, very few men appeal to all women.Sure, this is water. But it's really that you're more for the niche, and not for the all woman, because height it's one of the requirements for masculinity
I have, but they always have mental issues.I’ve seen tall incels. I’ve never seen a handsome incel.
Yep. Most, if not all, of the incels I know have some sort of mental or personality disorder.I have, but they always have mental issues.
Then again, pretty much all incels have mental issues so this is prob true in general.
Being highly neurodivergent/autistic is probably the single biggest handicap to being good with women aside from being born with a literal micropenis. I think even physical deformities might even be below being highly neurodivergent.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
My handsome, 6’1” friend was an incel all through college, but that was from self-doubt and self-sabotage. So I suppose it can happen. After he got a girlfriend in his early 20’s he was never an incel again.I’ve never seen a handsome incel.
What’s DEERing?Masculinity is a mindset. Who the fvck told you "oh he's tall, he must be masculine" Who are you hanging out with?
Look at @CornbreadFed, he's 6'1" and was DEERing and threatening another member to report him cause he felt offended by what some random dude in the internet who lives with his parents wrote on one of his posts, that's not very masculine if you ask me.
Thanks for that. I read NMMNG a long time ago, in the late aughts and attempted a reread last summer but didn’t finish. Obviously I forgot what DEER is.Defense, excuse, explain, rationalize. Its from the book No More Mr. Nice Guy. Typically when a man is so ingrained in his wife's frame, that he's scared of her emotions, that whenever he wants to do something, he has to DEER.
Example: Baby I'm going with the boys to drink and talk $hit, his wifes gets upset, then guy proceeds to DEER "But baby its being a while since I've gone with the boys" or "Baby it will only for 1 hour" or "Baby I want some time with the boys"
Its a form of being afraid of rocking the boat, that the guy thinks the wife or ltr will leave him. But it can be related to everything, when you try to explain something y being afraid of consequences.
In HS I hung out with the gamer nerd crew. We were the anti-popular edge lords. So. I was a HS incel too.My handsome, 6’1” friend was an incel all through college, but that was from self-doubt and self-sabotage. So I suppose it can happen. After he got a girlfriend in his early 20’s he was never an incel again.
I was incel all through high school, but I later found out
What’s DEERing?
Got it. I apparently didn’t finish my post before. I meant I was incel in high school but from self defeatism and lack of social acuity. I actually wound up fooling around with a woman after high school who told me she had a crush on me in high school. I didn’t even know who she was until I met her through an introduction.In HS I hung out with the gamer nerd crew. We were the anti-popular edge lords. So. I was a HS incel too.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I had a Oneitis in HS. But, like my nerd buddies, was too shy & self conscois to approach. Someone told her I had a crush on her and she supposedly replied. ‘Well, why doesn’t he just talk to me then?’.Got it. I apparently didn’t finish my post before. I meant I was incel in high school but from self defeatism and lack of social acuity. I actually wound up fooling around with a woman after high school who told me she had a crush on me in high school. I didn’t even know who she was until I met her through an introduction.
There was even a pretty classmate who told my friends, “He can have a girl but he acts like he can’t.” Keep in mind this was a woman I barely spoke to besides “hi” and “bye”.
Same here.Never had the courage to do anything. If I only can go back with all this knowledge...