A tricky situation [Quick Advice please]

[devilkingx2]

Consent cannot be documented, because it may be revoked at any time. A contract is what keeps a person from changing their mind at any time, and you can't contract for sex, not just because prostitution is illegal, but any contract for sex is void. If it were between a husband and wife, trading blowj0bs for housework, it would still be void, even though such a thing is not illegal.

Kobe Bryant got a rape charge, because he held a woman down during sex and j!zzed on her face while she was saying no. She had obviously consented to the sex originally, no one questioned that. But as soon as she says 'stop,' you have to stop, or else it's rape. (and yes, Kobe got off because he's rich, but most of us are not). That's why the idea of documenting sexual consent is pointless. Consent must be maintained throughout the interaction.

True but it's sure gonna be hard to prove that she didn't consent to the sex at the moment when the sex occurred if she consented immediately before and/or after.

Pretty sure the prosecution has to prove that you did it beyond a reasonable doubt rather than that you could've theoretically done it

Also bl0wjobs for housework would probably count as prostitution

 

[shesabranchswinger]

Yeah if you focus to much on the facts and negative aspects of women and life in general, you will be living the Howard Hughes life. And not the dashing playboy lifestyle but the stuck living in a hotel room shying away from human contact paranoid life. Over analysis leads to paralysis. Sometimes in life you have to risk it for the biscuit.

 

[Masculinity]

Consent cannot be documented, because it may be revoked at any time. A contract is what keeps a person from changing their mind at any time, and you can't contract for sex, not just because prostitution is illegal, but any contract for sex is void. If it were between a husband and wife, trading blowj0bs for housework, it would still be void, even though such a thing is not illegal.

Kobe Bryant got a rape charge, because he held a woman down during sex and j!zzed on her face while she was saying no. She had obviously consented to the sex originally, no one questioned that. But as soon as she says 'stop,' you have to stop, or else it's rape. (and yes, Kobe got off because he's rich, but most of us are not). That's why the idea of documenting sexual consent is pointless. Consent must be maintained throughout the interaction.

The way you make it sound, no one should ever have sex because of rape concerns. That's paranoia.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Essentially this post revolves around the fact:

No kind of proof of consent can offset the loss of wealth, reputation and mental health if a girl goes forward and accuses you of rape even if there was consent, implied or explicit.
That's the risk you will have to take and it's nominal, so don't be paranoid.

Now the onus is on you to decide if a girl's background, looks, behaviour and beliefs are worth taking this nominal risk.

Mistakes were made when I explicitly told her to give me consent on text, because even if she did, it won't hold up if things went wrong.

On the flip side, if she says no, not yet, that'll absolve her of all responsibilities.

TL;DR Keep escalating till resistance is encountered and make her comfortable.

Thank you for your inputs guys @Bible_Belt @Masculinity @wifehunter @devilkingx2 @Dingo @shesabranchswinger @Howiestern @SmooveMooves @ubercat @Alvafe

 

[devilkingx2]

Essentially this post revolves around the fact:

No kind of proof of consent can offset the loss of wealth, reputation and mental health if a girl goes forward and accuses you of rape even if there was consent, implied or explicit.
That's the risk you will have to take and it's nominal, so don't be paranoid.

Now the onus is on you to decide if a girl's background, looks, behaviour and beliefs are worth taking this nominal risk.

Mistakes were made when I explicitly told her to give me consent on text, because even if she did, it won't hold up if things went wrong.

On the flip side, if she says no, not yet, that'll absolve her of all responsibilities.

TL;DR Keep escalating till resistance is encountered and make her comfortable.

I think you've learned a lot from this thread, it was very productive.

all you need to keep in mind with the legal stuff is the whole reasonable doubt thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_doubt

aside from that don't worry about it much and spend your energy smashing chicks