"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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A "new" trend among women

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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They usually catch on late, probably by choice, once a trend picks up momentum they then decide to take it off the backburner
 

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it's funny tho, because a lot of times them talking to these guys on the side, turns out to be the very thing that ruins their relationships
 

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I don;t know if I should laugh or cry LOL and the way they interview these girls, like they are telling something really meaningful and smart...Imagine men doing this...would get slaughtered with "Patriarchy, men privilege, all men are pigs!"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's generally accepted that men can spin plates, but only until they have sex with one. Then they should commit.

Basically, men behaving like women is accepted.

Women don't generally sleep with all the guys they are dating - instead using some for validation/backups or whatever. Whereas men quite often do, or at least have the urge to.
Yup. Cuz these hos are quick to say "me and him aren't doing anything, he's just a friend"... or the classic line "he doesn't want me, he has a girlfriend"
 

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From the article comments:
The word should not be cushining but "monkey branching" instead. Women today have no morals, values, standards nor intelligence. Women today are not worth messing with, not to mention the expense and problems they cause men. This is why more men every day are going MGTOW. If you do not know what that is, go to YouTube and type in MGTOW IS FREEDOM. Listen to John tell how totally worthless today's women really are. Men... don't get married or have children with any woman. Do not allow any woman to live in "your" house. Remain single and retain Freedom. Let these women grow old & fat completely alone, without any man's money and with only their worthless cats for companionship. All women today are nothing more than gold digging hoe's.
Didn't know @Tenacity had a fox news account :D
 

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It's generally accepted that men can spin plates, but only until they have sex with one. Then they should commit.

Basically, men behaving like women is accepted.

Women don't generally sleep with all the guys they are dating - instead using some for validation/backups or whatever. Whereas men quite often do, or at least have the urge to.
Sex shouldn't equal commitment, that has to go.
 

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And yet some people have the galls to shame and blast men for spinning plates when it was borne out of the fact that women are doing the exact same thing.

<sarcasm> of course. Men are always at fault in relationships!!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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This is nothing new. They say millennials, women have always done this. Women never end a relationship until they are already in the next one. Gen x girls did this, baby boomer girls did this, this is women in general
Agreed, but previous générations would have a 1 guy focus and would stop until the relation goes south.... millenials.. have 3 or more minimun and than don't stop it "just in case"

If you can't comit there is no futur for a LTR because you always peck around.. even guys spinning plate in a LTR it would get back in there face.

However, if it was guys interviewed... boy we would be crucified.. girls its alright now :p
 

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I find that often, the manosphere merely refines the white-knight by creating this "80% low quality" nonsense.

Rather than just accept that women have needs that sometimes run contrary to our own, and just accept that.

It really is amusing when I spend about 14 months seriously gaming in an obsessive manner, and about 16 years having experience of seeing patterns repeat endlessly - only to have some prat disregard that with a simple NAWALT.

lol
Best PUA advice I ever got after the "just do it"

It's this one: "women think the reverse of us, so if its logic to you, it's not to her.." so be unlogical
 

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I find that often, the manosphere merely refines the white-knight by creating this "80% low quality" nonsense.

Rather than just accept that women have needs that sometimes run contrary to our own, and just accept that.
Of course anyone's needs will sometimes run contrary to our own. But regarding your "low quality" remark, you can't deny that some women are worse than others. I suppose it depends what you're looking for. You're starting to sound like Tenacity here though. Too cynical. My experiences are not quite so bleak, and as much as I'm sure you would like to discount them, I have been on the planet longer than you have.
 

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I honestly don't even think about red-flags. And I never have looked for a LTR in my life.

Yet, I find many good LTR options.

I don't think looking for one is the best way to get one :D
TRUTH BOMB
 

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At least he didn't say "no, that's just the 80% low quality. What you need to do is draw up a list of red-flags, and then filter for a super special woman that isn't really even a woman in nature".
I like your dad's attitude, that's pretty much the way I feel about it also. All this hand wringing that goes on in this forum can get a little hard to take at times.

Here's what I think: People in general are low quality, they can't be depended on. That means men too. And when you are dealing with people, women tend to be worse than men. That said, I've found the occasional woman who seems to be a decent enough person to be with.

I'm not even sure what you're complaining about, come to think of it. You aren't interested in a LTR, so what's the problem? That they won't give sex out fast enough? Most complaints about women being low quality are that they are huge slvts who aren't suitable for a LTR, or that they are hypergamous (which basically translates to they'd rather be with some other guy who's better than me).
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Monkey branching indicates not having a life, and poor character.
 

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You are assuming that only men who want LTR's have problems?
Of course not. I wasn't born in an LTR, you know. I used to spin plates myself when I was younger, although I don't believe I was ever as dead set against relationships as you are. I was just wondering what you were referring to.

Some guys complain that their plates eventually want a relationship, but I don't think I would chatacterize that as low quality. If I had a problem with a "plate", I would just quit hanging around with her.
 

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Women have always monkey-branched - that is, they don't let go of one vine until they have a firm grasp on the other, often swinging backwards in the process.

Men traditionally have ape-branch- leaping through the air from one vine to the next, often falling in the process.
 

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Dating today is like hanging out on the set after Gangbang Girl and seeing which guy she wants to get a pizza with.
A very gross but candid description.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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