El Payaso
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Seems like the mainstream media is catching onto what we call monkey branching. http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/20...to-fail-at-relationships-with-cushioning.html
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Yup. Cuz these hos are quick to say "me and him aren't doing anything, he's just a friend"... or the classic line "he doesn't want me, he has a girlfriend"It's generally accepted that men can spin plates, but only until they have sex with one. Then they should commit.
Basically, men behaving like women is accepted.
Women don't generally sleep with all the guys they are dating - instead using some for validation/backups or whatever. Whereas men quite often do, or at least have the urge to.
Didn't know @Tenacity had a fox news accountThe word should not be cushining but "monkey branching" instead. Women today have no morals, values, standards nor intelligence. Women today are not worth messing with, not to mention the expense and problems they cause men. This is why more men every day are going MGTOW. If you do not know what that is, go to YouTube and type in MGTOW IS FREEDOM. Listen to John tell how totally worthless today's women really are. Men... don't get married or have children with any woman. Do not allow any woman to live in "your" house. Remain single and retain Freedom. Let these women grow old & fat completely alone, without any man's money and with only their worthless cats for companionship. All women today are nothing more than gold digging hoe's.
Sex shouldn't equal commitment, that has to go.It's generally accepted that men can spin plates, but only until they have sex with one. Then they should commit.
Basically, men behaving like women is accepted.
Women don't generally sleep with all the guys they are dating - instead using some for validation/backups or whatever. Whereas men quite often do, or at least have the urge to.
This is nothing new. They say millennials, women have always done this. Women never end a relationship until they are already in the next one. Gen x girls did this, baby boomer girls did this, this is women in generalSeems like the mainstream media is catching onto what we call monkey branching. http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/20...to-fail-at-relationships-with-cushioning.html
And yet some people have the galls to shame and blast men for spinning plates when it was borne out of the fact that women are doing the exact same thing.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Agreed, but previous générations would have a 1 guy focus and would stop until the relation goes south.... millenials.. have 3 or more minimun and than don't stop it "just in case"This is nothing new. They say millennials, women have always done this. Women never end a relationship until they are already in the next one. Gen x girls did this, baby boomer girls did this, this is women in general
Best PUA advice I ever got after the "just do it"I find that often, the manosphere merely refines the white-knight by creating this "80% low quality" nonsense.
Rather than just accept that women have needs that sometimes run contrary to our own, and just accept that.
It really is amusing when I spend about 14 months seriously gaming in an obsessive manner, and about 16 years having experience of seeing patterns repeat endlessly - only to have some prat disregard that with a simple NAWALT.
lol
Of course anyone's needs will sometimes run contrary to our own. But regarding your "low quality" remark, you can't deny that some women are worse than others. I suppose it depends what you're looking for. You're starting to sound like Tenacity here though. Too cynical. My experiences are not quite so bleak, and as much as I'm sure you would like to discount them, I have been on the planet longer than you have.I find that often, the manosphere merely refines the white-knight by creating this "80% low quality" nonsense.
Rather than just accept that women have needs that sometimes run contrary to our own, and just accept that.
TRUTH BOMBI honestly don't even think about red-flags. And I never have looked for a LTR in my life.
Yet, I find many good LTR options.
I don't think looking for one is the best way to get one![]()
I like your dad's attitude, that's pretty much the way I feel about it also. All this hand wringing that goes on in this forum can get a little hard to take at times.At least he didn't say "no, that's just the 80% low quality. What you need to do is draw up a list of red-flags, and then filter for a super special woman that isn't really even a woman in nature".
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Of course not. I wasn't born in an LTR, you know. I used to spin plates myself when I was younger, although I don't believe I was ever as dead set against relationships as you are. I was just wondering what you were referring to.You are assuming that only men who want LTR's have problems?
A very gross but candid description.Dating today is like hanging out on the set after Gangbang Girl and seeing which guy she wants to get a pizza with.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.