"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
3rd annual Anti-approach anxiety competition
- Thread starter Gray The Prince
- Start date
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
1. Any of you approach in the grocery store? I'd like to do this but it just seems odd. Any advice is appreciated.
2. I had an HB8 in my report that was giving me serious eye contact, but she was with a dude. How would you handle that? I feel like I missed an opportunity as she made it clear she was interested in me. But I didn't know how to handle the dude.
Masculinity
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2009
- Messages
- 1,906
- Reaction score
- 547
That's weak. An important aspect of cold approaching is gaining social skills and increasing the number of approaches including their quality. Simply saying "hey, give me your number" is a proxy for hiding in the caves of one's fears and insecurities. In other words, it is completing the technical side of this week's challenge without learning anything--a stagnation effect at best. It is like getting an "A" by cheating on an exam--looks good on paper, but worthless in reality.Packers2010 said:
1 - Ask about a food item. If you are shopping near here, just go "Hey, can you help me? I was told about some recipe using this, but I can't remember what exactly it was.." - or - "Do you know of any good recipes for this? I was told to cook something up with it, but I've got no idea what to make." - or - "Help a guy out here, which flavor do you recommend?" - or - "That's an interesting choice, what are you making with that?" (has to be loud enough that she knows you are speaking to her, and clear).coachD said:
Any of those have potential to jump into conversation on food, tangent into anything really. "I had this holiday dinner with this, this.." etc etc. Anything can be used fairly easily.
2 - Not sure on the context. Describe the situation more?
Robyn; I somewhat disagree on the direct approach. Having the confidence to make a direct approach can dramatically help confidence in making an indirect approach. It all depends on context. I'd recommend every guy make a few direct approaches, straight-up. It takes more confidence, imo, than making an unobtrusive comment and trying to start a conversation.
That said, I agree in that it doesn't build or improve the social skills, which is a definite point of this competition. It will help confidence levels, though, which can indirectly assist the social skills. If I'd make a suggestion, you could say that a direct approach needs a follow-up, which I'd argue is just as beneficial as an indirect approach with a decent length conversation.
I got one in today, the only cute girl in my age range that was in starbucks right now. She was definitely not interested in talking though, she tried closing the conversation like 3 times, which I kind of deliberately ignored to keep her talking. Maybe will re-open her another time, who knows, may run into her again if she's studying in the bux. But anyways.. my summary comes later.
The thing Packers is talking about seems kind of like the Good Looking Loser approach. I guess there's good and bad to it. If you do it enough you've got a numbers advantage. That'd probably be great if you live in NYC and can troll the streets. But not in the suburbs.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
Like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRM1VwUiYAPlutoman said:
Packers2010
Master Don Juan
some girl started talking to me, then a dude started talking to me asking me questions. it's was a bit alarming. couldn't tell if he was gay or not. maybe he was.Gray The Prince said:
i'm calling it a 3some pick up. maybe i'm just saving face.
Packers2010
Master Don Juan
lol.. that was a joke man. you really think i am going to do that?Robyn923b said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Packers2010
Master Don Juan
so i have to ask 7 girls for there number?Plutoman said:
JohnChops
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Mar 9, 2012
- Messages
- 2,734
- Reaction score
- 481
No you need to approach a total of 7 women, but only ask a selected 3 for their number.Packers2010 said:
Gunner
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Gunner26 said:
Alright. Keep up the good work.
Masculinity
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2009
- Messages
- 1,906
- Reaction score
- 547
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
Hopefully the weekend saves me.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.