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you guys are forgetting an important aspect: her friends. i can't tell you how many times i've begun talking with an UG and ended up with her hot friend. i was at a party the other night, and i approached an UG by herself, who seemed like a good opportunity to warm up my game with for the night...

For the sake of your safety, don't meet him. If he can follow his/your gf to whereever you guys met, there's no stopping him from following you out of the mall and beating your ass in the parking lot. Or even worse, he can follow you home (without your knowing it) and find out where you live...

yeah it sounds pretty genuine. I would need to know exactly how the convo/interaction went. But play it safe and lay off for a while. Unless she insinuates no strings attached hooking up, in which case it's completely up to you. You have given almost no background or context to judge...

I don't necessarily agree. It depends on the context in which it was brought up. If it was at a high point of your interaction with her, she may have been testing you, in which case it matters much more how you responded. In that situation, I would have said something that questioned why she...

hahaha.... Anyway, back to the haircut. Unless you want to post a picture of your mug for us to decide on this forum, which presumably you don't, I suggest consulting one of your friends, preferably a girl. What works for one person, may not work for another. If it looks good on you, or...

hahaha.... Anyway, back to the haircut. Unless you want to post a picture of your mug for us to decide on this forum, which presumably you don't, I suggest consulting one of your friends, preferably a girl. What works for one person, may not work for another. If it looks good on you, or...

Yeah, I also understand what you're saying, but it seems way too inefficient. If you spit tight game, it won't matter whether you initiate the interaction or she does. Plus you won't have to wait weeks or even months to get her in bed. I would just approach and get the job done.

any updates dude?

Yes, the counter-offer is key here. But if she flakes on that too, cut all ties untill she begs you back.

16.5 days.

the reason I say this is bc all the symptons right now point to decreasing interest by her. Any further progress will result in low/no interest. Step back for a few weeks, regain composure, and find another girl before you proceed.

Yeah, but it's got to be more than just dropping the line. It's just like simply not calling her is not enough. These are "playing hard to get" games that most people learn early on. After a bit, you become pretty transparent unless you know all the subtleties. I think in your situation it's...

Yes, if this is a consistent thing, nexting would be the easy solution. But i don't think it would hurt to bring a few more elements into the game. Even if you have been keeping communication minimal, you're still too available when she calls. It's almost like a form of passive desperation...

Dude, she's just pulling game on you, the exact game you should be pulling on her. She's dragging you along for the ride, and if you keep complying with her, she'll lose interest very soon. You don't have to next her just yet. Just get your message across. When she calls back, tell her...

Yeah, you were in a very similar situation. So what did you do? I like JustDoIt's advice. I wonder if he'd be willing to elaborate his routine further on here. How would someone going about subtly hinting to the hb9.5 that you understand her game.

We've all done it at some point. We know the rules of the game. Yet at some point out of desperation of losing the interest of a girl, we momentarily revert to our AFC ways and accomplish the exact opposite of what we intended. The obvious solution to this situation is to cut your losses and...