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Hi all I used to be a regular on this forum and I have been away for awhile. basically I gave up because everything I tried, failed. I am 44 and still learning how to date. I've got game. game is not the problem. I approach women all the time and I'm in a good social environment with...

hey brothers. I am back, trying it again... y'know. This is one question I still can't figure out. what do you think? there were times when I paid, and it was a bad experience. The women just used me for a meal and it didn't get me a 2nd date. Note to self: don't do that again. but...

Hi all! I haven't posted for over 1/2 a year, during that tiem I've been though Hell. My home and place of business burned down, my life was ruined, I was homeless and on public assistance. so I had other things on my mind besides dating. but all these disasters did not seem to effect on my...

Hi all! I'm baaaack... wow - all these new names I don't recognize since the last time I logged on back in May or June. So far I don't have a lot of progress to report - but I do have a theory on a new inner game that I will field test and report at the first available opportunity. but I...

please direct me to tips or links that focus on long conversation skills, i.e., dinner dates. I'm still floundering around. I just came from back from my 2nd CL date (woohoo!), a pleasant 35-yr old russian/asian. I knew absolutely nothing about this woman. it felt strained, esp at...

finally got my first date from a CL post! it was this past Sunday. I think it went well, but her ad is still posted. full story here: http://www.freewebs.com/ogrespage/christie.htm No calls or emails from either of us since Sunday. I called this eve, 2 rings, heard nithing, then...

DJ's: here are emails with a 31 yr old woman who placed a personals ad on craigslist. I did everything right - I think d'angelo would be proud - but then it just bombed. wtf just happend? I really wanna know! I shoulda been in her panties by now...

I had a date with N on a wedensday but when I called her at the appointed time and she was sick. (she really was, I could hear her voice she sounded terrible) I saw J on a saturday, she came up for a photo shoot for my website. we made a date for the following saturday (it was her idea) I...

why does it work for everybody but me? full story: http://www.freewebs.com/ogrespage/ http://www.freewebs.com/ogrespage/

guys this is great - this girl placed an personal ad and she practically spelled out the DJ method for me! so I replied, she sent a pic, (she is gorgeous. young slender blonde Russian.) I sent a pic, and she actually wrote back! Woo-hoo! please tell me what to write. I need your...

One of the things he emphasises in his "system" is to keep the phone conversation short, get a date, and hang up. The purpose of a phone is to get a date, not to have conversations, according to the Doc. There is nothing in his book about email at all, but I assumed based on his telephone...

I just wanted to post this article: http://www.rense.com/general61/mast.htm this is what we're up against, guys. welcome to Brave New World.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/m4w/53141729.html tell me whatcha think

basically is like this: I approach and meet girls easily, their IL is high, at first. then comes the phone messages, emails, and their IL starts to slip. usually I don't get a date. Girls can smell the stench of "desperate loser" in the air like a bad fart. I can't hide it. to girls...

an example: Nice young latina girl, pretty, very talented singer and performer, appeared on TV on some Spanish talent showcase. when I met her she really dug me. at first. and her mamma liked me too, but that's another story. at the time she was living with mamma and working 6 days a...

this is an update to "she brought her sister along" I just came back from her place. it was no big deal. The good news is, for starters, the address she gave me was correct. I thought for sure I was gonna end up on a wild goose chase down in gangsta-land. so far so good. whoo-hoo...

I posted about this church babe I was chasing after a few weeks ago.... these was some communication problems with her cellie cutting out on me mid-sentence. Then I tried to track her down at her church and she wasn't there. So I had to put her in the back of the line for awhile. I...

In my last post I wrote about this lousy lunch date with this girl who is pretty but refused to ride with me on my motorcycle and I could not manage to strike up a conversation with. I have seen her several times since, although the only thing going on between us is that I am helping her get...

has anyone read "the pimp game" by Mickey Royal? comments?

yes, ol' ogre here has actually succeeded in getting a date. This bank teller I have been flirting with on-and-off for a few months now. She's 20's, looks like catherine-zeta jones, really sweet. I've been doing everything right, C+F, poking fun, didn't go AFC, so far so good. One big...