"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Are Initiative taking women a red flag?

tesla8520

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This woman claims that initiative-taking/aggressive women do chase men and initiate interactions because they feel the need to pursue a man, possibly because their father was absent. As a result, they may have developed a relationship pattern in which the man is always absent, and they have to pursue him in order to get his attention.

She talks about how these women often have a father wound and may be more likely to monkey-branch from one relationship to another.
In fact, she argues that even when these women are in a relationship or married, they may still flirt frequently with other men or even initiate interactions with them.

Their usual target is a stoic man who does not show many emotions toward them. As a result, they feel compelled to do the work of decoding his emotions and trying to fill that emotional gap.

To sum up, women who take the initiative, flirt too much, or even openly declare their feelings are a major red flag.

What's your take on this?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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BaronOfHair

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Some types of initiative are definitely cause for caution, yeah. One ex.

There's a big difference between a gal who begins conversations with men she fancies(Perfectly reasonably)

Vs

Those who are, quite literally, down on all fours on social media http://instagr.am/p/ChNfcRsvyow/ , even though they're NOT professional models/are doing so in large part to attract male attention, yet refuse to admit they're motives outright
 

tesla8520

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Actually this woman is pretty good!
She says things we see works irl.

women like men who are projects.
Admit your flaws and say you are working on it will make you more attractive and a better relationship materials then a mature man who owns his life and have his sh1t in order.

She says women like a man who shows up and it's struggling but promise that he is gonna change.
She think because women want a man to be committed, but they like a man that says that "he is gonna change".
Because if the man is gonna say that, the woman will feel like, "oh, he's gonna change for me".


He struggle with drinking but "he's working on it"
He struggle with keeping a job but hey "he's working on it".
 

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This woman claims that initiative-taking/aggressive women do chase men and initiate interactions because they feel the need to pursue a man, possibly because their father was absent. As a result, they may have developed a relationship pattern in which the man is always absent, and they have to pursue him in order to get his attention.

She talks about how these women often have a father wound and may be more likely to monkey-branch from one relationship to another.
In fact, she argues that even when these women are in a relationship or married, they may still flirt frequently with other men or even initiate interactions with them.

Their usual target is a stoic man who does not show many emotions toward them. As a result, they feel compelled to do the work of decoding his emotions and trying to fill that emotional gap.

To sum up, women who take the initiative, flirt too much, or even openly declare their feelings are a major red flag.

What's your take on this?
What makes her an authority of anything? "Father Wound"? This is bro psychology at best.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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BillyPilgrim

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The girl in the video is a good example of the "weird stare". If a chick has no sweetness nor sexiness in her gaze, it's not a good sign.

OP is too used to good-for-nothing Italian chicks to see it as odd lol.
 
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