I turn 32 en of November. I have a 5 year old son. Me and his mom broke up 4 years ago. I spent the last 4 years getting into good shape, learning mma, buying me a nice condo, and secured a 6 figure job. I dated a few girls here and there on the mean time and have come to realize I’m too naive when it comes to women. I found this forum and wanted to dedicate my life now at 32 to getting good with woman. Whenever I start seeing a woman and I don’t feel much interest in they become super clingy but when I see a woman I’m very interested in I can feel their interest fading. It sucks that I have to play the is game but I realize my behavior is greatly affecting the level of affection these women feel for me. It’s like I have to fabricate disinterest or create such an abundance that I don’t feel the need to perform for any of them. Anyways, can you guys give me some good advice on how to kick off. I guess I would need to find a way to go on as many dates as possible with as many woman to start with. What’s the best way to achieve this.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
About to be 32 and single af
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
This is my experience. I don't like to perform.
I am a fairly attractive man, well placed financially and I own my own things.
This is the basis.
Now, let's get to the point: we need to have sex.
The problem: It's not easy.
I'm not a lover of dating, in fact I hate having to take the girl for a "ride on the rides" only to then want to f0ck her. What I mean is, I would like to just f0ck.
I go out there, I'm looking for an attractive girl, she's single currently and I want to f0ck her.
I don't want to take her for a walk, for a drink, to a restaurant.
"Dear woman, I want a healthy and beautiful f0ck with you, a bit of company and a bit of intimacy, are you too on the same road?"
Well, this is what I want, not a relationship, but for some reason I have difficulty completing the fulfillment of this desire of mine.
Wonder how you guys fixed it.
Plinco
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As far as attracting women, women want men they respect; live life the way you see fit (like taking care of your son, doing the kind of work you want to do, looking the way you want to look, etc), that includes approaching the kind of women you're attracted to without hesitation. In other words, learn how to respect yourself, possibly in ways that you're currently unaware.
Bible_Belt
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You're not too old to compete. I did it at your age. How's your jits? If you go to a NAGA tournament, they are all lying sand baggers, just fyi.
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I don't like posts like these because they're a waste of everyone's time, both the writer's and the readers'.
OP, you need to provide more context. How exactly do you show interest? What types of women are you dating? And why do you feel the need to go on as many dates as possible with as many women as possible when, as you already mentioned, you have women showing interest in you whom you're simply not interested in?
There's so much information missing that it's impossible to establish a starting point or offer meaningful advice on what you actually need to work on.
If you're looking for somewhere to start, there are several prerequisite guides you should read, such as the DJ Bible and The Red Pill Side Bar. Those will at least give you a foundation to work from, regardless of how much advice you receive here.
OP, you need to provide more context. How exactly do you show interest? What types of women are you dating? And why do you feel the need to go on as many dates as possible with as many women as possible when, as you already mentioned, you have women showing interest in you whom you're simply not interested in?
There's so much information missing that it's impossible to establish a starting point or offer meaningful advice on what you actually need to work on.
If you're looking for somewhere to start, there are several prerequisite guides you should read, such as the DJ Bible and The Red Pill Side Bar. Those will at least give you a foundation to work from, regardless of how much advice you receive here.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
this you can definitely pull ; I do ~
not every girl wants to go on the date and you don’t want to do that as well -
I cannot out into words but the answer is yes you can have good times with girls and not up on dating
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No. You have to emotionally self regulate yourself. Big difference.
The Duke
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This is why it's hard. You and @Cheeky_James want to skip the song and dance part and get right to the fuhking. Thats why guys like me end up in bed with the girl later that nite and you two go home with nothing.
I don't think there is anything hard about it. I simply enjoy the seduction part. In fact it has gotten so easy that I have to tell myself I don't need to go home with some random girl.
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I agree with the post above mine.
Gotta think in REVERSE; sex might mean everything to you ,but "nothing " to a woman..similarly cuddling might be meaningless to you while it means the world to her...gotta find the middle ground .
For decades ( modern dating let's say from the 60/70's) men got girlfriends to get their needs met. Nothing more nothing less. Yes that means talking on the phone for 30 minutes sometimes. Taking her out. Buying flowers. Answering to her insecurities. Meeting her family and friends..
Thats the quickest way to get steady sex. If you are " that guy" you might get a feck buddy. But even in that case you'll learn how fickle women are. She might be a sl-ut to you, but she still gonna want a boyfriend sooner or later. If you indeed are that guy you would replace her in a heartbeat or even better; you got a roster. Judging from your question..you lack something.
Gotta think in REVERSE; sex might mean everything to you ,but "nothing " to a woman..similarly cuddling might be meaningless to you while it means the world to her...gotta find the middle ground .
For decades ( modern dating let's say from the 60/70's) men got girlfriends to get their needs met. Nothing more nothing less. Yes that means talking on the phone for 30 minutes sometimes. Taking her out. Buying flowers. Answering to her insecurities. Meeting her family and friends..
Thats the quickest way to get steady sex. If you are " that guy" you might get a feck buddy. But even in that case you'll learn how fickle women are. She might be a sl-ut to you, but she still gonna want a boyfriend sooner or later. If you indeed are that guy you would replace her in a heartbeat or even better; you got a roster. Judging from your question..you lack something.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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No, I like putting effort into something. The thrill for me comes before she drops her panties, not after.
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Dedicating your life to women? That's a pretty big failure if a life of that's your goal, IMO.
You should be dedicating your life to maximizing your potential, which would automatically improve your results with women in many ways. And most importantly, the step not enough people actually work hard enough on, changing your mindset.
Because you can lose weight, 5x your income, buy better clothes, drive a fancy car, get a better haircut, and do all sorts of other things to make you objectively more attractive to women, but if you don't spend time working on changing your mindset, you will still be the same person with the same belief system and the same internal views of who you are as the person who was overweight, broke, had crappy clothes and a bad haircut. And that's a much bigger problem than most men realize.
You can change your external situation much faster than you can change your internal beliefs about yourself. And for most men, that's what is holding them back with women far more than the external factors. Because then they become incongruent to women...they portrays themselves one way, but their internal belief system shows women they do not believe they are who they claim to be.
Essentially it is backwards thinking.
And eventually without fail, you will always become what your internal belief system thinks you are regardless of what you think your external resources make you.
You should be dedicating your life to maximizing your potential, which would automatically improve your results with women in many ways. And most importantly, the step not enough people actually work hard enough on, changing your mindset.
Because you can lose weight, 5x your income, buy better clothes, drive a fancy car, get a better haircut, and do all sorts of other things to make you objectively more attractive to women, but if you don't spend time working on changing your mindset, you will still be the same person with the same belief system and the same internal views of who you are as the person who was overweight, broke, had crappy clothes and a bad haircut. And that's a much bigger problem than most men realize.
You can change your external situation much faster than you can change your internal beliefs about yourself. And for most men, that's what is holding them back with women far more than the external factors. Because then they become incongruent to women...they portrays themselves one way, but their internal belief system shows women they do not believe they are who they claim to be.
Essentially it is backwards thinking.
And eventually without fail, you will always become what your internal belief system thinks you are regardless of what you think your external resources make you.
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You found your wife, attracted her, proposed, she said yes. married her, got her pregnant, she delivered a healthy baby, and now you have a five year old son.
Why are you confused in what to do now?
Great answer! Got me thinking. This is what’s holding me back. How do I actively work on this?
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Was is always the case or did your perspective change at a certain point?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.