How do you determine the interest levels?

[Maximummax]

Question to experienced Juan's.
When you first meet a chick, what gives you the vibe whether this girl is highly interested or mid level.

 

[zekko]

level of cooperation

 

[Clockwerk50]

The Medium is the Message

 

[Sega Genesis]

The Medium is the Message

The Rational Male

>>If she’s fluctuating between being into you and then not, put her away for a while and spin other plates. If she sorts it out for herself and pursues you, then you are still playing in your frame and you maintain the value of your attention to her.<<

I'm not getting this^^ part. It assumes the man has been doing everything right and it's she who is being the difficult one. Hot/cold behavior, etc

Could it be possible her behavior is in direct response to HIS hot/cold inconsistent behavior? Her matching HIS energy? Which is discussed here often (men matching a woman's energy). It goes both ways.

And why would a man expect her to pursue him? Chase him? Essentially Lead.

There is so much discussion on this forum about men leading the relationship, being strong leaders. Expecting a woman to pursue/chase you seems in direct contrast to that.

A man automatically "putting her away for awhile" without considering all the various nuances could actually make things worse!

I have read The Rational Male. Around 10 years ago. I thought it made valid points but I think a man following his advice (or much of) is outdated in today's dating culture and one of the reasons dating and relationships have become so f*cked up.

I am not suggesting women are always perfect angels, they (we) are definitely NOT. And there are occasions when putting her on back burner and letting her come to you is the wise decision

I'm just saying that not everything is so black and white, that's all..

$.02

 

[Pumax]

level of cooperation

I've had women actually super interested in me or helping me in whatever I wanted to.
It's what they call "compliance"?

There is so much discussion on this forum about men leading the relationship, being strong leaders. Expecting a woman to pursue/chase you seems in direct contrast to that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1d2ylpi Men miss most signals.
That is the issue

 

[Sega Genesis]

I've had women actually super interested in me or helping me in whatever I wanted to.
It's what they call "compliance"?



https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1d2ylpi Men miss most signals.
That is the issue

^^Yeah "I" was the one who actually kissed one of my long term ex's first and we were together four years after that. I have posted about it.

Thing is though he didn't lean back waiting for me to chase him. Like some strategy. It developed naturally and organically.

I dunno I am all for men (and women) improving, I learn something valuable from everything I do and always look for ways to become better.

Just not a huge fan of Rollo or standard Redpill advice and believe such Games and strategies can sometimes hurt dating experiences and relationships.

 

[Clockwerk50]

The Rational Male

>>If she’s fluctuating between being into you and then not, put her away for a while and spin other plates. If she sorts it out for herself and pursues you, then you are still playing in your frame and you maintain the value of your attention to her.<<

I'm not getting this^^ part. It assumes the man has been doing everything right and it's she who is being the difficult one. Hot/cold behavior, etc

Could it be possible her behavior is in direct response to HIS hot/cold inconsistent behavior? Her matching HIS energy? Which is discussed here often (men matching a woman's energy). It goes both ways.

And why would a man expect her to pursue him? Chase him? Essentially Lead.

There is so much discussion on this forum about men leading the relationship, being strong leaders. Expecting a woman to pursue/chase you seems in direct contrast to that.

A man automatically "putting her away for awhile" without considering all the various nuances could actually make things worse!

I have read The Rational Male. Around 10 years ago. I thought it made valid points but I think a man following his advice (or much of) is outdated in today's dating culture and one of the reasons dating and relationships have become so f*cked up.

I am not suggesting women are always perfect angels, they (we) are definitely NOT. And there are occasions when putting her on back burner and letting her come to you is the wise decision

I'm just saying that not everything is so black and white, that's all..

$.02

I think the author's perspective and context is that he is assuming the man is consistent with his interest and the woman is the main prospect; therefore, if the woman's behaviour is fluctuating between hot and cold despite that consistency, then it makes sense to step back and let her sort out where she stands rather than continuing to pursue her.

The main point of that small paragraph is that you don't want to keep investing in someone who is treating you like a second choice, and at some point, her level of interest has to be demonstrated through her actions, not just her words.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I think the author's perspective and context is that he is assuming the man is consistent with his interest and the woman is the main prospect; therefore, if the woman's behaviour is fluctuating between hot and cold despite that consistency, then it makes sense to step back and let her sort out where she stands rather than continuing to pursue her.

I see. So I was correct then when posting this:

It assumes the man has been doing everything right and it's she who is being the difficult one. Hot/cold behavior, etc

Fair enough. It's advice material for men and this is a men's seduction forum, so yeah that makes sense I get it.