MatureDJ
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I was reading the comments for one of Aaron Clarey's books, and one got me interested:
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Do you think the typical fat chick is a "fixer upper"?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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That's an interesting way to think of it, but the answer to your question is no.
It would be best for an overweight woman to lose weight and get to a BMI under 25. Once her BMI is under 25, she can focus more on dating.
Men are told to self-improve all the time in order to get laid and get girlfriends. There are women that would be well served by taking time away from dating and self improving.
Men must become, whereas women are. Men have the burden of proof.
The main motivator for an overweight woman to lose weight in terms of dating would be to get higher quality prospects and increase the chances she can get a committed relationship from a better option.
It would be best for an overweight woman to lose weight and get to a BMI under 25. Once her BMI is under 25, she can focus more on dating.
Men are told to self-improve all the time in order to get laid and get girlfriends. There are women that would be well served by taking time away from dating and self improving.
Men must become, whereas women are. Men have the burden of proof.
The main motivator for an overweight woman to lose weight in terms of dating would be to get higher quality prospects and increase the chances she can get a committed relationship from a better option.
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No! Most fat chicks remain fat for life. And even if they manage to lose weight, they are likely to relapse after they hubby up.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Don’t do it. She can lose 10-20 lbs but that’s the most you can expect. Women are fat because they want to be fat.
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I think you guys are being too hard on fat chicks ... the nutrition world is a mess, there are obese doctors, there are vegan doctors/nutritionists (which is as ridiculous as a physicist being a flat earther). But you expect a 22yrs old girl who has been slowly gaining weight since she hit puberty despite following the standard BS advice of ''everything in moderation, eat less move more, 5 small meals etc'' to be an expert on nutrition? 
So I personally wouldn't disqualify a prospect just because she's overweight... I'd first have to find out how she got like that (for instance if she's fat because she binges on alcohol and take aways on nights out, that behavior is a deal-breaker, not her weight). But if she got fat because all around her are like that and she didn't have a good example and whatever she read sounded either unsustainable long term or contradictory, that's totally different. If then she's receptive to advice and quick to implement it, problem solved.
So I personally wouldn't disqualify a prospect just because she's overweight... I'd first have to find out how she got like that (for instance if she's fat because she binges on alcohol and take aways on nights out, that behavior is a deal-breaker, not her weight). But if she got fat because all around her are like that and she didn't have a good example and whatever she read sounded either unsustainable long term or contradictory, that's totally different. If then she's receptive to advice and quick to implement it, problem solved.
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Women don’t have any self control regardless
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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Yes, there is a shortage.
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Yawn. For every fat girl that loses weight, there's 10,000 more who refuse to do it cause it's hard and they're still getting attention from other men. Even if it is men they will not ****, women are slaves to attention. "My ass is fat and I have big tits so I can keep being overweight."
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Do you think that such a prospect would stay loyal to you once she reached YOUR idealistic image of her?
You must create the surplus. Fatties are only good to kill a LONG dryspell. But you'll know it's not your proudest feck ever.. but you do have a point probably. That's why these women have no incentive to improve. 1 night of swiping and she has a new line up of thirsty, desperate candidates.Yes, there is a shortage.
I MUCH rather have a fit older woman than a fat younger one.
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Honestly that's about what that dude should expect to get...no idea why a woman looking like that was with him in HS
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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For me its not even about whether i can fix her up or not.. I simply am not attracted to women who are below a certain threshold of beauty. It would prob hurt her for months or however long it takes till she loses the weight and starts lookin attractive.. btu even then shes gotta have real nice features n sht.
Then again, I also take good care of myself and make sure i look top notch as well. When I was a bit younger, I legit could not leave the house till my hair and outfit was perfect.. I know that sounds kinda feminine.. but you dont get to live al lifestyle like mine without being somewhat of a meticulous person when it comes to self care and appreciating ones self through looking good all the time. I cultivated this through years of routine.
Then again, I also take good care of myself and make sure i look top notch as well. When I was a bit younger, I legit could not leave the house till my hair and outfit was perfect.. I know that sounds kinda feminine.. but you dont get to live al lifestyle like mine without being somewhat of a meticulous person when it comes to self care and appreciating ones self through looking good all the time. I cultivated this through years of routine.
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Better to start with a thin girl that already takes care of herself. You don’t need or want any projects.
Those transitions are a shame. Most will never recover from that size. If they do, they will have excess fab and most likely some mental health baggage