You're not alpha...

[AureliusMaximus]

You're not a real alpha male if women don't see you that way,
- then you're just a a beta male.

Change my mind.

 

[member160292]

Is it happy hour in Denmark already?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Is it happy hour in Denmark already?

Always lol

 

[Plinco]

I don't give a s*** what people think

 

[kavi]

You can only be Alpha is women literally pick you to be Alpha. Men cannot in the current world recognise Alpha because they are too stupid and clueless in THE GAME. Also, men are competing for Alpha position so you cannot be chosen by men to be Alpha.

In a community of Chimpanzees it is the females and older males who elect the Alpha Male. Women are literally hard-wired to pick Alphas and pick the right guy to be at the top, to run the society for the womens benefit (children, safety, resources etc). This is the reason why women are so useless at debating, arguing and politics. Women literally have very few views and opinions that they are passionate about because their job is not to have those but to politically align with whichever guy they beleive is the correct Alpha.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

a woman will recognize you as primal alpha if she lets you fvck her in the azz after some resistance, lets you cvm in her mouth and swallows,cooks you a meal and keeps hittin you up to come over for some more beating again. But the pillar of a woman seeing you as a natural alpha is showing you respect.

 

[Serenity]

You're not a real alpha male if women don't see you that way,
- then you're just a a beta male.

Change my mind.

Unless you're a sigma who doesn't really give a fvck what women or other men thinks anyways.

To women a sigma can seem alpha or beta, depends which woman you ask. The sigma isn't afraid of occasionally being perceived as a beta, something the ego of an alpha simply can't handle.

I personally don't give a damn about appearing alpha, I have more self-control and discipline than the stereotypical alpha will ever have. The women who can't recognize which level of the social game I'm at are simply below me. The alpha tries to impress all, I only care about those worthy of me.

So no, you're not necessarily a beta if some women don't see you as alpha, but it can't easily be ruled out either.

 

[Billtx49]

Unless you're a sigma who doesn't really give a fvck what women or other men thinks anyways.

To women a sigma can seem alpha or beta, depends which woman you ask. The sigma isn't afraid of occasionally being perceived as a beta, something the ego of an alpha simply can't handle.

I personally don't give a damn about appearing alpha, I have more self-control and discipline than the stereotypical alpha will ever have. The women who can't recognize which level of the social game I'm at are simply below me. The alpha tries to impress all, I only care about those worthy of me.

So no, you're not necessarily a beta if some women don't see you as alpha, but it can't easily be ruled out either.

Interesting that you bring up the Sigma category. A search here for Sigma going back to 2003 only returns 291 forum posts with a few obviously referring to greek collegiate society.

It’s not all about alpha or beta. With six accepted types of male personalities, If men don’t discover and examine their own personality first, they will never know where they stand with women…

 

[member160292]

Interesting that you bring up the Sigma category. A search for Sigma going back to 2003 only returns 291 forum posts with a few obviously referring to greek collegiate society.

It’s not all alpha or beta. With six accepted types of male personalities, If men don’t discover and examine their own personality first, they will never know where they stand with women…

Care to link/elaborate the 6 types of personalities?

 

[Billtx49]

Care to link/elaborate the 6 types of personalities?

Start here -

25 Signs & Characteristics of a Sigma Male - Happier Human

In the world of male archetypes, the concept of a "sigma male" stands out as a compelling counterpoint to the more widely recognized alpha and beta paradigms. Rather than fitting neatly into the existing social hierarchy, sigma males carve their own path, embodying a unique blend of traits and...

www.happierhuman.com

Google can find more reference articles for inquisitive minds …

 

[member160292]

Start here -

25 Signs & Characteristics of a Sigma Male - Happier Human

In the world of male archetypes, the concept of a "sigma male" stands out as a compelling counterpoint to the more widely recognized alpha and beta paradigms. Rather than fitting neatly into the existing social hierarchy, sigma males carve their own path, embodying a unique blend of traits and...

www.happierhuman.com

Google can find more reference articles for inquisitive minds …

Thanks, I think I'm between a beta and sigma. Interesting stuff

 

[Serenity]

Interesting that you bring up the Sigma category. A search here for Sigma going back to 2003 only returns 291 forum posts with a few obviously referring to greek collegiate society.

It’s not all alpha or beta. With six accepted types of male personalities, If men don’t discover and examine their own personality first, they will never know where they stand with women…

What's funny is that I believe most guys on this forum aiming to become alpha would be far more likely to succeed if they tried to adapt to the sigma style.

Strange it isn't talked about more, but the sigma is more low-key after all, unlike the alpha who wants to make sure everyone knows how great he is by obnoxiously showing off all the time.

 

[oOh Nasty]

I agree. If the women who witness you don't desire, admire, or "hate" you (aka, you're treated with indifference), then that's a beta tell. If women don't see you as having attractive qualities, or even worse, see you as non-threatening, then you're a beta.

 

[BadBoy89]

Alpha has nothing to do with what women think.

All Alpha is is living on your own terms.

 

[member160292]

I don’t think there’s very many true alpha males in forums like SoSuave. They are too busy running their multi-billion companies lol

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I don’t think there’s very many true alpha males in forums like SoSuave. They are too busy running their multi-billion companies lol

Many call themselves "alpha" and think they are that because it boost their ego, but in reality very few are that,.
But it is not you yourself who get to decide that. If women treat you as a beta male then that is highly likely your true position in the social ranking ladder.

 

[Serenity]

Many call themselves "alpha" and think they are that because it boost their ego, but in reality very few are that,.

I honestly can't think of anything more alpha than bragging about being an alpha. Unless by alpha you actually mean sigma. The alpha has an ego to boost, something the sigma just lacks.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Depends on the environment you are in

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

There are different definitions and opinions on the differences between Alpha and Beta males. I recommend the book "Beta Male Revolution" by Alan Roger Currie. ARC views Alphas and Betas from the perception of females, which I believe is most beneficial for guys on this forum since dating and relationships is what most of us are here for. A true Alpha male is a man is who is erotically dominant, focuses a lot on himself, has above average bedroom skills, and is unapologetic about his non committal and promiscuous lifestyle. These men naturally have an abundance mindset, rarely believe in monogamy (unless it's to co parent or raise children), and tend to be extremely confident in themselves and direct with females by knowing and expressing what they want without hesitation. Alphas are also usually very committed to fitness and maintaining their best physique. Beta males tend to be more career driven, have very competitive ego's, and often fall under the "nice guy" category which leads many of them to struggling with women. ARC categorizes two other hybrid delineations: Alpha male with a few beta traits, and Beta male with a few Alpha traits.

Here's the harsh truth... Women will use the possibility of sex to manipulate men (beta males) into marriage, long term relationships where they can suck all of the resources out of a beta male. They will usually be able to control this male and "wear the pants" in the relationship, and be able to realize their man would not cheat on them. So while a beta male may be a great father, friend, and long term partner, he may not have the erotic dominance or bedroom skills, masculine sex appeal of a true alpha. Once these women have gotten bored of their long term bf or husband and know they have control of the frame, they will lose attraction for him, but still stick around for the resources (non sexual companionship, money, time, etc). These are the women in society who cheat on their spouse or bf with an Alpha for casual sex, because they crave and fantasize about being dominated by the alpha. They want their cake and eat it too.

Note: You can be extremely Alpha and low value. While you can be extremely Beta and high value.

Tyrone who has a high degree of masculine sex appeal, confidence, and bedroom skills, may be in and out of jail with no job, but will have his choice of sex partners. Tyrone would be considered Alpha but "low value". This cat wouldn't be someone women want a long term relationship with, but would be interested in casual sex with.

Kevin who may struggle in the bedroom, hasn't had the most success with women, and tends to focus on his career and financial success would be considered beta but "High Value". This guy would be more appealing to women as a long term boy friend or husband in the eyes of women.

If you found this post interesting and want to learn more, I highly recommend the book Beta Male Revolution by Alan Roger Currie.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

You're not Alpha or Sigma or a Gansta if you need to prove it or have validation for it. The moment you question yourself whether you are something or not, that is the moment you stopped being that (assuming you ever were that).

Furthermore, I personally don't believe in such concepts. I can understand why men can be fascinated by the concept of Alpha or Sigma. I mean, after all, it is primal to have such a level of value within a tribe but recognize that you will never fit into one single label. You should be much broader and have much more depth than that.

My two cents.


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