single moms roster was unreal.

[derby1]

A woman in my street invited me round to her BBQ today, with my daughter.

Upon arriving there was 3 other single moms there. Our Children all know each other, and that suited me as they could hang out.

The moms and I were all chatting throughout the afternoon, I know them all quite well, and they were quite open with things.

Just for observation reasons: Each woman is no more than a 4/10 at most. They arent sexy, drink heavy, no hobbies.
HOWEVER the disheartening part to me, (for all of us men). is the following , guys with half decent lives, mean nothing to them, guys with muscles means nothing to them.

I liked the fact they admitted better guys only want to smash, but its the fact that male self improvement means nothing to them, they have 4 other guys C*ck, the same as you even at 40!

my point of this is,
All those hours in the gym,disciplined food, hobbies, passions, pursuits, + working 10 hours, and a 3/10 wont appreciate you as her guy one bit.

We should be GOD to these women, but it was another day at work to them

They would probably be a bit submissive for the local Bruce wayne.

Good luck Lads lol

 

[f283000]

That’s slowly changing with the manosphere growing on YouTube and the likes of Kevin Samuels waking men up about single mothers. As the red pill keeps growing so will more single mothers start getting a reality check.

 

[GreatHornedOwl]

Did they specifically say guys with decent lives and muscles means nothing to them? I didn't see that anywhere in your post.

So I'm confused as to what the message is here.

 

[Machine10033]

They sound somewhat repulsive... odds are they are not getting interest from any guys with their sh@t together and jacked. Kind of like the fat gamers chatting with a hot girl and talking a veiled shot at her “ we don’t go for attractive girls” I’ve encountered this myself and it’s usually the girls that have nothing going for them.. I hear you must be high maintenance, guys like you are too into yourself... on and on... and I usually realize at some point in the conversation I have no interest in these girls...why am I even entertaining them.

any girl can have multiple c0cks waiting for her... there is always a gaggle of simps waiting!

 

[derby1]

I thought you said since you've been getting bigger, that the IOIs were increasing from this age group?

yes from strangers bro.

So I'm confused as to what the message is here.

the point of the post isn't that these women are aiming to the top 20% of men for commitment, the women werent stupid. they know theyre lane. But its the fact that because they have got ANY man they want round theyre house in the last 2 months, you are just another guy, even if your in good shape. or mildly successful.

Its another day in the office to them, yet really they should be kissing a 5/10 males feet

and the wall is no longer 30. its more like 50 now.

 

[GreatHornedOwl]

Maybe more men should be thinking like that, and they'd be getting better results.

 

[derby1]

odds are they are not getting interest from any guys with their sh@t together and jacked.

theyre getting banged by them, thats the point of my post.

Its like me being a peasant and valeting cars over 50k.....

when one pics me up from home, its nothing new to me. where as in reality I should be kissing its tyres

 

[derby1]

I think this will change when prostitution becomes legal.

Its legal in the UK,, Im pretty certain.

Unless theres some weird law, making it legal to sell, but not legal to look for.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Like I've said before... I think this will change when prostitution becomes legal. You can't have a vast majority of guys not having sex without a major movement as a result. When this happens, it will lower the value of all women. They will now be getting less and less attention from guys who'd rather say "I've got more money than time for these low class stuck up broads." Then they will start going to brothels instead of entertaining these women. Hopefully this happens relatively quick as the coming back to reality for all females should make it easier for DJs.

It’s legal in Canada here and girls still believe they are the Instagram queen.

 

[ubercat]

@derby1 UK is full of EE girls. Why don't you take out the local trash?

 

[SargeMaximus]

Both of those countries can't have formal brothels. I'm talking like in Nevada.

I see your point. Perhaps that would change things

 

[mrgoodstuff]

A woman in my street invited me round to her BBQ today, with my daughter.

Upon arriving there was 3 other single moms there. Our Children all know each other, and that suited me as they could hang out.

The moms and I were all chatting throughout the afternoon, I know them all quite well, and they were quite open with things.

Just for observation reasons: Each woman is no more than a 4/10 at most. They arent sexy, drink heavy, no hobbies.
HOWEVER the disheartening part to me, (for all of us men). is the following , guys with half decent lives, mean nothing to them, guys with muscles means nothing to them.

I liked the fact they admitted better guys only want to smash, but its the fact that male self improvement means nothing to them, they have 4 other guys C*ck, the same as you even at 40!

my point of this is,
All those hours in the gym,disciplined food, hobbies, passions, pursuits, + working 10 hours, and a 3/10 wont appreciate you as her guy one bit.

We should be GOD to these women, but it was another day at work to them

They would probably be a bit submissive for the local Bruce wayne.

Good luck Lads lol

Do it for yourself! Never disrespect yourself behind them and things will balance out over time.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What women say means nothing. OP you haven't figured this out yet?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

A woman in my street invited me round to her BBQ today, with my daughter.

Upon arriving there was 3 other single moms there. Our Children all know each other, and that suited me as they could hang out.

The moms and I were all chatting throughout the afternoon, I know them all quite well, and they were quite open with things.

Just for observation reasons: Each woman is no more than a 4/10 at most. They arent sexy, drink heavy, no hobbies.
HOWEVER the disheartening part to me, (for all of us men). is the following , guys with half decent lives, mean nothing to them, guys with muscles means nothing to them.

I liked the fact they admitted better guys only want to smash, but its the fact that male self improvement means nothing to them, they have 4 other guys C*ck, the same as you even at 40!

my point of this is,
All those hours in the gym,disciplined food, hobbies, passions, pursuits, + working 10 hours, and a 3/10 wont appreciate you as her guy one bit.

We should be GOD to these women, but it was another day at work to them

They would probably be a bit submissive for the local Bruce wayne.

Good luck Lads lol

The who are they choosing by your analysis and why?

 

[corrector]

I guess when I say legal, I mean in the sense that when there is no more stigma attached to engaging in it.

I don't think there is much of a stigma attached to it here these days. In fact, its probably becoming more fashionable to visit one compared to before. Allot of things that were a stigma back in 00s are becoming fashionable post-pandemic 20s. In fact, apart from the religious aspect, I would have no issues at all visiting one myself (I can't say I'd have sex with one though even if I visited one).

 

[corrector]

A woman in my street invited me round to her BBQ today, with my daughter.

Upon arriving there was 3 other single moms there. Our Children all know each other, and that suited me as they could hang out.

The moms and I were all chatting throughout the afternoon, I know them all quite well, and they were quite open with things.

Just for observation reasons: Each woman is no more than a 4/10 at most. They arent sexy, drink heavy, no hobbies.
HOWEVER the disheartening part to me, (for all of us men). is the following , guys with half decent lives, mean nothing to them, guys with muscles means nothing to them.

I liked the fact they admitted better guys only want to smash, but its the fact that male self improvement means nothing to them, they have 4 other guys C*ck, the same as you even at 40!

my point of this is,
All those hours in the gym,disciplined food, hobbies, passions, pursuits, + working 10 hours, and a 3/10 wont appreciate you as her guy one bit.

We should be GOD to these women, but it was another day at work to them

They would probably be a bit submissive for the local Bruce wayne.

Good luck Lads lol

This is a good point. This is the other MTGOW-side of the black-pill. If one does go out of their way and really looksmaxx, get ripped, then they may end up with these types of horror story women anyway. But that's just them and they might just be using them for sex. However, I'm sure they must be dating hb7+s too right? You just need to have more attractive women to hang-out with. You don't need to hear them mouth off since it might be toxic.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Boyos, I keep preaching about how men should avoid single moms at all cost, it doesn't matter if she's smoking hot, a single is just a toxic waste of time.

Guys on here outright brag or lowkey brag (imply) that they're high SMV and yet they will rationalize to themselves that it's okay to mingle with single mothers.

I've seen threads on here with guys praising single mothers and dissing men who won't date single mothers as incel losers..... like seriously? what kind of twisted mental gymnastics is this? These dudes are praising Chad and Tyrone's leftovers and rationalizing to themselves that there's nothing undignified about scavenging for another man's scraps (single mommas)....

And the biggest cope: "Single moms play less games"........ what a load of BS..... single moms are notorious for playing games and qualifying the men in their circle with idiotic sh/t tests..... Because the female imperative is to find a sucker that will subsidize her and her children's living expenses....

Fellas, have some muthafcccking dignity, leave another man's garbage on the curb where it belongs....

 

[Xenom0rph]

BTW, legalized prostitution won't change anything, men will still be SIMPs.

Prostitution is legal in a lot of places in Europe and men there are just as big of cucks as in the US. That's because most men are ego-fragile, insecure buffoons that think paying for sex makes them less of a man.... They base their self-worth on their ability to attract positive attention from women, which is the same type of attention-wh0ring, validation-seeking behavior that women engage in, and I find it quite ironic that guys will criticize women for their validation-seeking and yet these men engage in the same type of behavior.....

 

[dasein]

What women say means nothing. OP you haven't figured this out yet?

1. ^
2. No one who looks good, of any age, and has any job, is settling for 4/10 single mothers even for sport, so I smell some sour grapes in these women, what OP describes would actually give me ED and would rather do without or spend time on other options, so it would be interesting to see what quality/looks of men they have in their roster. In any event, women who say that good looking, fit men do nothing for them are lying IMO.

What I have noticed in my town is that single mothers tend to hone in on very young, baby-faced, naive, wet behind the ears, decent looking but not special, not jacked, thin 6ft men with very mediocre jobs. I regularly see 30ish+ 4-6.5ish single moms marrying 22-25ish young men in these parts. No idea how these marriages turn out, but I have a hunch not too well for the young men in question.

But yes, the entitlement and "I am the prize" with them is utterly insane. This is likely part of the poor judgment patterns that got them where they are in the first place, and of course they will never be accountable because they are the favorite consumers of the government and powerful marketers.

 

[Xenom0rph]