"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What's a good opener for talking to women while they are shopping?

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Earlier tonight I was doing some errands and had to pick up a few basic essentials. Anyway, I was walking down one of the aisles and I noticed this woman, early 20s or so, who had incredible hips and ass. I positioned myself so that she had to walk by me and while she was walking in my direction from a distance I pretended to be looking at items on a shelf. When she got a bit closer I made eye contact with her, she held my gaze for a second and then as she was walking past she was looking towards the ground the entire time. I more or less kind of froze, as I wasn't sure what to say, and she walked by. I didn't want to linger or start following her around but I started thinking about what would have been a good way to potentially open in a situation like this. Would a simple hi, or how are you work? A while back I did something similar where a woman was walking down the aisle and I said something about liking her outfit but I just kept it at that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ask about something in her grocery basket. A simple "Is that good?" question about some item will do the trick. I've opened with that. Try to ask a question about something where you have an opinion. You can also open directly about your physical attraction. Since you're 6'4" and muscular, you have a lot of freedom to say things that a less muscular and shorter man cannot say.

In a mall store, you can pretend to be buying a gift for a female sister or cousin and get women's opinions on the gift options.
 

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Ask about something in her grocery basket. A simple "Is that good?" question about some item will do the trick. I've opened with that. Try to ask a question about something where you have an opinion. You can also open directly about your physical attraction. Since you're 6'4" and muscular, you have a lot of freedom to say things that a less muscular and shorter man cannot say.

In a mall store, you can pretend to be buying a gift for a female sister or cousin and get women's opinions on the gift options.
A while ago I was looking for peanut butter, which has tons of selections, and there was a woman who was essentially doing the same thing. I made some comment about how there were so many choices and from there a conversation opened up. I didn't push for anything because I wasn't feeling it but that's a good reference for me to use.
 

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Ask her if she thinks you are handsome, (if she says yes, then proceed to) then ask if she's single (if she says yes, then proceed), then ask her, why can't we make-out right now? Then go for the kiss-close.
Then number-close if she's a good kisser and take the lead.

If you have the looks then you should just cut the BS and just go for the kill.
 

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Ask her if she thinks you are handsome, (if she says yes, then proceed to) then ask if she's single (if she says yes, then proceed), then ask her, why can't we make-out right now? Then go for the kiss-close.
Then number-close if she's a good kisser and take the lead.

If you have the looks then you should just cut the BS and just go for the kill.
I actually kind of like that but if it wasn't delivered in a good way it would most certainly be perceived as creepy.
 

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Earlier tonight I was doing some errands and had to pick up a few basic essentials. Anyway, I was walking down one of the aisles and I noticed this woman, early 20s or so, who had incredible hips and ass. I positioned myself so that she had to walk by me and while she was walking in my direction from a distance I pretended to be looking at items on a shelf. When she got a bit closer I made eye contact with her, she held my gaze for a second and then as she was walking past she was looking towards the ground the entire time. I more or less kind of froze, as I wasn't sure what to say, and she walked by. I didn't want to linger or start following her around but I started thinking about what would have been a good way to potentially open in a situation like this. Would a simple hi, or how are you work? A while back I did something similar where a woman was walking down the aisle and I said something about liking her outfit but I just kept it at that.
Are you looking for sausage?
 

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I actually kind of like that but if it wasn't delivered in a good way it would most certainly be perceived as creepy.
That is why you pause and wait for her to say yes. If she says yes twice she basically greenlighted you. Hesitation is the only creepiness. Do not hesitate on the first two questions and smile when approaching. You can guage her before approaching for IOI and AIs and see if she is with someone. But you should be good to go!

Also visialize that happening to you. Imagine today you are going to make out with a random hb and release her hidden slvt. You find her in your gut and take the plunge. You make that moment. Now.go and find that girl and report back!
 
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Eye contact, smile and "Hello".

Some indirect discussion about what you are looking for. If she is interested she will make it plenty easy for you.

You can warm up with other random people in the store before you try on an attractive woman. Sometimes that may actually work in your favor. One time a big black dude was standing in front of the rice. Politely said "'scuse me I gotta grab that bag of rice"
He says back "Dude that's a lot of Rice"
I tell him I'm making Jambalaya and he responds positively. The hot girl down the aisle is eavesdropping and asks me if I cook alot...BOOM!

My favorite though was the little 4 year old girl in the cart with the hot mom. I said hello to them as I passed down one aisle and as I'm coming back up the other one, Little miss cutie pipes up "I LIKE YOUR BOOTS!" What an awesome wing girl!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pick out something desirable in her cart/basket (a steak, a bottle of wine, flowers, etc) and say, "aww, that's sweet, but you really don't have to get me anything". They eat this up lol
 

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I once dated a woman for over a year that I met in the produce section of the grocery store...I walked by and she had like 10 eggplants in her cart and I deadpanned "So...what are you planning to do with all those eggplants?" And gave her a smirk...she busted up laughing and then told me she was making an eggplant dish for a family reunion blah blah blah...

We chatted for a few more minutes, I got her number and that was that...
 

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I once dated a woman for over a year that I met in the produce section of the grocery store...I walked by and she had like 10 eggplants in her cart and I deadpanned "So...what are you planning to do with all those eggplants?" And gave her a smirk...she busted up laughing and then told me she was making an eggplant dish for a family reunion blah blah blah...

We chatted for a few more minutes, I got her number and that was that...
Have you ever made an approach in an environment/setting like that in where it wasn't perceived well by the female side?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Have you ever made an approach in an environment/setting like that in where it wasn't perceived well by the female side?
Yes, a few. Really not my thing but every once in a while when I am in the mood I will do it. Grocery stores and book stores are 2 good places to try
 

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Yes, a few. Really not my thing but every once in a while when I am in the mood I will do it. Grocery stores and book stores are 2 good places to try
I think most of it comes down to delivery, as in not being creepy or weird about your initiation. After that it's assuming she is in at least a neutral frame of mind, most people from my observations are fairly friendly and relaxed in shopping types environments. Then from there it is whether or not she is attracted to you to at least some degree. I think most of this can be gauged within a few seconds of a simple hi or making some sort of comment.

For instance, late 2019 I was browse shopping at the mall, I was bored and wanted to get out of the house and try some approaches. Anyway, I was in one of the stores and I tried initiating this conversation with a woman who was looking at watches and she didn't speak english at all so you can imagine how awkward that was lol. I made some comment about how she look really indecisive and she just stared at me in total confusion.
 
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@sangheilios - I think you might be in your head a little too much. Simplify. Realize that you are 6'4" and muscular. Women want to have sex with you just by you showing up. Their default position is interested. Just ask questions, guide the interaction, then have sex.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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