"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

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You only had 3 pics?? What about angle shots of your face, smile, etc? Some women have 20 pics. I think about 6 pics is good. Mainly so they can tell you're not a lardball.

Just like with women if there are no pics of their teeth or torso I won't message them. Figure teeth are bad or they're hiding their fat or are covered in tats and don't want you to notice it.

If if their face looks hot and only one pic and not smiling or at least shows their body I won't reply.

A great example is a chick on Match 30 miles away who looks HB7.5 and cute in the face. However she hides her body. At first she said in her "what I'm bad at" and she said at walking. I didn't think much of it at first and figured she was meaning she was a klutz maybe so I wrote her. Then a few days later I looked at her profile again and she changed it and said she's in a wheel chair but hid all hints of it. Even propped herself up.

So if no body shot it's a no go for me to write them.
Less = more. You need to be mysterious and let them find out about you. They like to be detectives (hopefully better than MrWood), and learn about a dude on their own. I am going to guess you do the opposite and have diarrhea of the mouth (or fingers) with you telling them your life story.

The picks have my full body dude.

@Atom Smasher @Amante Silvestre @logicallefty @Infern0 - Dudes, we should do a SoSuave bootcamp. Just a thought.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Less = more. You need to be mysterious and let them find out about you. They like to be detectives (hopefully better than MrWood), and learn about a dude on their own. I am going to guess you do the opposite and have diarrhea of the mouth (or fingers) with you telling them your life story.

The picks have my full body dude.

@Atom Smasher @logicallefty @Infern0 - Dudes, we should do a SoSuave bootcamp. Just a thought.
But for your main pic you need your face close up and looking your best to make a good first impression so they click your profile. Why do you think chicks use their best possible pic for the main pic.
 

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But for your main pic you need your face close up and looking your best to make a good first impression so they click your profile. Why do you think chicks use their best possible pic for the main pic.
I use me with a suit and tie that was taken at a party. I look like the sh it (mostly because I am). My friend, you need a whole work over. It would take hours, if not days to fix your style, your exercise and dietary routine, the way you reach out to these ladies.. Basically, your whole persona.

I hope you do not tell these ladies you live with your mom. You should peruse the AirBNB's in the nice areas of where you are searching, update your zip to that area, and AirBNB a home in the really nice part of town. Then, you ask them for a night cap, and you f uck them there. What is so hard here?
 

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I use me with a suit and tie that was taken at a party. I look like the sh it (mostly because I am). My friend, you need a whole work over. It would take hours, if not days to fix your style, your exercise and dietary routine, the way you reach out to these ladies.. Basically, your whole persona.

I hope you do not tell these ladies you live with your mom. You should peruse the AirBNB's in the nice areas of where you are searching, update your zip to that area, and AirBNB a home in the really nice part of town. Then, you ask them for a night cap, and you f uck them there. What is so hard here?
My zip code average age is over 60 lol. Is that appealing?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My zip code average age is over 60 lol. Is that appealing?
For Christ's sake. Are you dense or something? RE-READ my post.


 

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Not too sure a sane dude would put a pic with his children on a dating app. Ladies do, but, well, they're not all there..
Im sure ladies that show their kids aren't putting no man on a pedastal. They want to scare you off if it's not cool. Think about that. Parents don't think the single thing and the game is the defining measure if a person.
 

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Im sure ladies that show their kids aren't putting no man on a pedastal. They want to scare you off if it's not cool. Think about that. Parents don't think the single thing and the game is the defining measure if a person.
You would be amazed how many ladies I saw on Bumble with them and pics of their kids. It's pretty common in the NYC area.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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As a french canadian i had to google the term
And now im like wtf!!!!!
Is there such an association was the founding member Michael Jackson or something????
Sick stuff
Yea, I did too. I didn't think that was still around. I remember hearing about it years ago. Heck, one can even apply to become a member online. Think BG would apply if we posted the link? With that teddy bear pic, he'd be a shoe in for acceptance.
 

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You would be amazed how many ladies I saw on Bumble with them and pics of their kids. It's pretty common in the NYC area.
Last time I was on Bumble (1-2 years ago), all the women in my area were HB8/9, white, and all 5'9-6'0. At first I thought the algorithm was trolling me. I'm not talking about 1 or 2, I'm talking about nonstop 20-30 of these. None with kids though. I was also in NY btw.
 

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Last time I was on Bumble (1-2 years ago), all the women in my area were HB8/9, white, and all 5'9-6'0. At first I thought the algorithm was trolling me. I'm not talking about 1 or 2, I'm talking about nonstop 20-30 of these. None with kids though. I was also in NY btw.
Yea, I had no prob. getting a date on Bumble either. Haven't been on since last March, so IDK how it is anymore. I was surprised how many were DTF on the 1st meet. Crazy sh it.
 

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Yea, I had no prob. getting a date on Bumble either. Haven't been on since last March, so IDK how it is anymore. I was surprised how many were DTF on the 1st meet. Crazy sh it.
Definitely. The easiest are the ones who straight up on 1st message say something like "you probably hear this all the time but...nice abs." And then it just becomes a game of just making sure you don't biggoal it out the window.
 

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Yea, I had no prob. getting a date on Bumble either. Haven't been on since last March, so IDK how it is anymore. I was surprised how many were DTF on the 1st meet. Crazy sh it.
Why when I go on Tinder or Bumble they're overweight a lot of times or located 35 or more miles away? Been a week since I saw anything over HB6 within 20 miles of me on those apps.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Why when I go on Tinder or Bumble they're overweight a lot of times or located 35 or more miles away? Been a week since I saw anything over HB6 within 20 miles of me on those apps.
You need pro photos and stylish... without that the results aren't good. I've myself made a test about it... Big big difference.

Or you can be really lucky to find a newbie woman on there, talk and schedule a quickly date. Otherwise she will be bombed with tons of options for her.
 

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You need pro photos and stylish... without that the results aren't good. I've myself made a test about it... Big big difference.

Or you can be really lucky to find a newbie woman on there, talk and schedule a quickly date. Otherwise she will be bombed with tons of options for her.
I'm tired of OLD sites and how I have to drive 30 or more miles just to meet anyone.
 

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You need pro photos and stylish... without that the results aren't good. I've myself made a test about it... Big big difference.

Or you can be really lucky to find a newbie woman on there, talk and schedule a quickly date. Otherwise she will be bombed with tons of options for her.
Never done old

But i know getting a good shot can be very hard.
Im sure it can help greatly, but imo 1 or 2 prof shot is good, but other pic need to look non-proffesional.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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