"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Very good size man.
What bf if you dont mind me asking.
Used to be very big but with higher bf, i did not like the look on me.
Tbh idk.. I will say i do not have visible abs but I don’t really have much of a gut either. If I had to guess 20% ? If you didn’t know I am a club bouncer part time so I guess I try to maintain my look? Just looking intimidating helps keep guys calm most times.
 

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the avatar for @BeExcellent is her, if im not mistaken
Hi Gang... yes my avatar is me as all my avatars have been. I’m careful about showing too much of my face etc. but I’ve always felt if I’m going to say I’m this or that then I need to represent accurately so that I have credibility. That photo was taken last August...

And IMO both @cola & @AttackFormation are both attractive men. Keep in mind that all of us have a certain appeal to a subset of the opposite sex...and we all maximize our appeal by staying fit and presenting ourselves well.

I’m considered “hot” by plenty of men, but I’m not everyone’s ideal. That’s fine. Choose from among people who find you objectively attractive. That alone will save any number of headaches....

Cheers
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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don't like my own face so doubt i'll post it, but tempted to post my slayer friend (who slays more than you'd believe!!) since people are curious. Hell, you might not even think he's good looking, but girls react to him like he's in a lynx advert!! haha (opening him and grabbing him and telling him how hot he is, outright asking him for sex within minutes etc etc)
 

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Hi Gang... yes my avatar is me as all my avatars have been. I’m careful about showing too much of my face etc. but I’ve always felt if I’m going to say I’m this or that then I need to represent accurately so that I have credibility. That photo was taken last August...
I don’t see a single wrinkle! You look great, very petite are you vegan?
 

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Tbh idk.. I will say i do not have visible abs but I don’t really have much of a gut either. If I had to guess 20% ? If you didn’t know I am a club bouncer part time so I guess I try to maintain my look? Just looking intimidating helps keep guys calm most times.
Id say lower than that about 15 but jatd to say with shirt on.

This is the only pic i have of myself shirtless it was about 7 year ago i think.
I got even bigger but imo this is not the best look

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Now im more slim actually help me greatly with the ladies
 

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Just a quick picture, I dropped 100 pounds real difference in face. Still considered Obese and need to drop another 50lbs but at least I got jawline now. Hitting the gym everyday and watching what I eat will do body shots in another 4 months.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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don't like my own face so doubt i'll post it, but tempted to post my slayer friend (who slays more than you'd believe!!) since people are curious. Hell, you might not even think he's good looking, but girls react to him like he's in a lynx advert!! haha
The idea is to offer some friendly criticism that could help you out, maybe a few tweaks could improve your facial aesthetics.
 

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Just a quick picture, I dropped 100 pounds real difference in face. Still considered Obese and need to drop another 50lbs but at least I got jawline now. Hitting the gym everyday and watching what I eat will do body shots in another 4 months.
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Wow man ....
Great improvment.
 

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The idea is to offer some friendly criticism that could help you out, maybe a few tweaks could improve your facial aesthetics.
oh no, I already know my issues and what surgeries to get (confirmed on reddit a while back)
 

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Most guys will underestimate their body fat %. You will weigh less when you are lean than you think you will, especially if you don't yet comprehend that fitness models and athletes are on juice and you think you're supposed to have a supernatural physique by natural means. Don't sweat how "big" you are if you're working out, just get lean. @Sponty you look much better now, it's paying off.

don't like my own face so doubt i'll post it, but tempted to post my slayer friend (who slays more than you'd believe!!) since people are curious. Hell, you might not even think he's good looking, but girls react to him like he's in a lynx advert!! haha (opening him and grabbing him and telling him how hot he is, outright asking him for sex within minutes etc etc)
If it's the same guy I think you showed me, if you're the same guy, then I think your friend has a hard-nosed look. He fits into the "bad boy" spectrum.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Just a quick picture, I dropped 100 pounds real difference in face. Still considered Obese and need to drop another 50lbs but at least I got jawline now. Hitting the gym everyday and watching what I eat will do body shots in another 4 months.
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Well done, you have a great face and really nice teeth. You even look happier and more fun to be around in the second picture

@MrWood so are you an actor? Because that’s really cool man.
 

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@MrWood so are you an actor? Because that’s really cool man.
one shot, just for fun.
I have been in a few documentaries, but im no actor... thanks
 

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Id say lower than that about 15 but jatd to say with shirt on.

This is the only pic i have of myself shirtless it was about 7 year ago i think.
I got even bigger but imo this is not the best look

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Now im more slim actually help me greatly with the ladies
We have a similar body structure, I’m a tad more lean. I wouldn’t think you’d have a problem with the ladies in this picture, you look very strong. How tall are you?
 

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Hey @MrWood i know you said you think I’d look better with a shorter trimmed beard but would you ever consider making yours a tad longer? Something like this 44C9959B-0E0A-4F20-8394-46B0B1568E5E.jpeg
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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