21 Convention

[redskinsfan92]

It looks like this may be what happened:

Johnson approached Rollo a few years ago and convinced him that he wanted to steer the convention toward Red Pill speakers and content. Rollo believed he was sincere, so he helped him by bringing in speakers and providing guidance/direction.

A few years down the road, for whatever reason (probably ego and money) Johnson decided to take the content and direction toward a more purple pill message. As proof, just look at Bruno & this Alexander Cortes guy... seriously? And Rollo was probably vocal about staying on point with a red pill message and speakers. So Johnson & his sycophant boys conspired to dump Rollo.

It looks to me like Rollo even spoke to this before the shiz hit the fan:

False Positives

A consistent criticism I’ve received over the years is that the Red Pill is so negative. Why cant the Manosphere just sweeten up? Its truth is definable and self-evident, but why can’t …

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I went to the first 21 con that Rollo helped Johnson put together. He did not strike me as a natural speaker when he presented. I spoke with him a few times, he was thoughtful and he chose his words carefully. He’s more the intellect type than a Tony Robbins type motivator. I also believe that he hasn’t come out with guns blazing about all this BS because it’s just not his style. I think he’s of the mind that the truth will eventually be clear to all.


-Augustus-

That's what he says. That it wil be clear in the coming months.

 

[Poonani Maker]

When I first saw Rollo Tomassi's name appear on Sosuave, I'd assumed that he was Black, because I grew up watching (eh, I guess in my early teens) Sandford n' Son and there was a Rollo on that show. I had pictured Rollo Tomassi as a Wilt Chamberlain type figure, honest to God. I saw ya'll talking about him and the buzz was about him off-site. I never checked him out until I saw a vid of him on 21 convention. I then envisioned him as a sort of Zan Perrion.

 

[RickTheToad]

Update: some of those that are on Anthony Dream Johnson's side have been bashing Red Pill men. It clear they wanted to build their brand off red pill, then dump all over it.

Seems The Wet Dream Johnson is now a co-host. They also have TFM's former host Blob Smith and George "The Sultan of Sh!t" Bruno on Red Man and Red Line. It's getting bottom barrel now. For the record, I liked Bruno until he attacked Rollo. You'd think a 60 year old grandpa would act more like an adult. I like had Donavan doesn't take sides.

 

[MadMan]

Who wants to pay 2k if they can't ride the Red Pill Rollocoaster?

 

[Plinco]

Apparently there is some drama going on in The Red Man Group youtube channel. Suddenly Rollo Tomassi isn't going to the convention. Apparently Rollo Tomassi and Richard Cooper are no longer part of the group. No clue what happened. I don't worry myself over such things too much.

Made me curious. Has anyone here gone to one of these conventions? Was it any good? Seems like I can get all the info I need on here, books, videos, and other forums.

I don't know if they still do it, but they used to promote Objectivism.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Rollo shared this screenshot on Twitter. So they accuse Rollo of doxxing their location in October 2018. Offer him the leading position of RMG in March 2029. Then kick him out May 2019 for an issue they brought back up. Yeah, they are liars. I knew it. I never liked any of them. AJAC gives sh1t fitness advice. George Bruno is a blue pill joke. ADJ is a con artist. Andrew Tate (aka Mr Plenty and former champion kickboxer) is a scammer selling his PHD course for 279 euros. He makes his money off camgirls.

 

[Juanto]

think this last screenshot from Rollo really says alot....

 

[redskinsfan92]

They have released two hit piece videos attacking him some more today. He needs to go all in. End it Rollo!

 

[Spaz]

I take it that Rollo is still dragging his feet?

 

[redskinsfan92]

I take it that Rollo is still dragging his feet?

Yep, he did release the above screenshot showing ADJ was offering for him to be CEO of Redman Group. That puts context on his email in the 2nd video where they try make it look like he was trying to take over. He needs to confront this head on in my opinion. I know he is passive, but come on now.

 

[Spaz]

Yep, he did release the above screenshot showing ADJ was offering for him to be CEO of Redman Group. That puts context on his email in the 2nd video where they try make it look like he was trying to take over. He needs to confront this head on in my opinion. I know he is passive, but come on now.

Being passive is okay, there's greatness in it.

Masculinity on the other hand is a learned trait, with assertiveness being a component.

In this case he lacks assertiveness.

 

[Juanto]

There is some of that, but the Rational Male is still quite a good book imo on it's own merits.

Good to see you back deesade

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Rational Male is still quite a good book imo on it's own merits.

What EXACTLY is in that book that you find valuable?

Is it skills you couldn't learn anywhere else?

Is it red pill ideas? If so, how, EXACTLY do those red pill ideas HELP you?

What differences in your behaviors have those red pill ideas affected?

What can you do NOW that you couldn't do BEFORE you read that book?

Do you make more money?

Live a healthier life?

Have more sex?

Or is the your life more or less the same, and the only thing that has changed as HOW you define the world you live in?

 

[Juanto]

I remember you! We were into the Polish girls. Still think they've got the best girl game btw. How you been getting on mate?

Good mate, you gave me good tips back then.

How do you see all this 21 Con controversy?

 

[redskinsfan92]

“The Believers” vs. The Empiricists

I’ve been meaning to do a post about this for a while now, and given the present ideological schism in the Manosphere (still searching for a better term) I thought reposting this would be rel…

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Rollo pretty much says they are in it for money in a passive aggressive way here.

 

[TrolloTomassi]

Don't tell anyone, but I'll be attending the 21 Convention wearing my wedding ring disguised as a Red M&M.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Don't tell anyone, but I'll be attending the 21 Convention wearing my wedding ring disguised as a Red M&M.

The writer of "The Rational Fail" has been neutralized.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Apparently there is some drama going on in The Red Man Group youtube channel. Suddenly Rollo Tomassi isn't going to the convention. Apparently Rollo Tomassi and Richard Cooper are no longer part of the group. No clue what happened. I don't worry myself over such things too much.

Made me curious. Has anyone here gone to one of these conventions? Was it any good? Seems like I can get all the info I need on here, books, videos, and other forums.

Rollo has lawyered up;

The 21 Convention, Anthony Johnson and The Red Man Group, LLC

RE: Statement about 21 Convention and Anthony Johnson and the Red Man Group, LLC: I have to make this short because I am represented by legal counsel and yes, a legal team is now involved in this m…

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-Augustus-

 

[redskinsfan92]

Rollo has lawyered up;

The 21 Convention, Anthony Johnson and The Red Man Group, LLC

RE: Statement about 21 Convention and Anthony Johnson and the Red Man Group, LLC: I have to make this short because I am represented by legal counsel and yes, a legal team is now involved in this m…

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-Augustus-

Probably a wise move

 

[Spaz]

Wasted, much damage has been done with his earlier inaction.