“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yes thats what we were saying. Youll get to a puzzy level where the simp positions just dont make sense. Youll feel violated. The puzzy needs to flow freely and easily to you.
I feel you.

Also I 100% agree on how a girl should never confuse you. If you follow the dating algorithm and use rules like Mixed Signals = Low Interest and Two Strikes, you'll never ever be confused. Making her confused is totally cool though... Cause women are attracted to men whose feelings are unclear
 

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I feel you.

Also I 100% agree on how a girl should never confuse you. If you follow the dating algorithm and use rules like Mixed Signals = Low Interest and Two Strikes, you'll never ever be confused. Making her confused is totally cool though... Cause women are attracted to men whose feelings are unclear
His feelings are unclear cause he dont need her to validate him. Hes focused on what he thinks.
 

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His feelings are unclear cause he dont need her to validate him. Hes focused on what he thinks.
Exactly right. If she flakes she flakes. He's on his purpose.

"I don't care about getting laid with this one specific girl, but I do care about getting laid"
 

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Exactly right. If she flakes she flakes. He's on his purpose.

"I don't care about getting laid with this one specific girl, but I do care about getting laid"
His feeling is clear that if she waste his time and not put out that he will drop her.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Pre-Test

Well guys, I just threw on my silky and Monsoon Cap. I'm about to get some sleep. Wish me luck on this test tomorrow! Getting my degree is priority numero uno, so I have to make sure that I do well.
 

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Just got back from taking the test. It wasn't too terrible. I was able to answer every question, and I felt pretty prepared. I'm not gonna count my chickens before they hatch though. I'll just bide my time and wait to see how my grade turns out. But I felt prepared: still making progress towards that Computer Science Degree.
 

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Well guys, I just threw on my silky and Monsoon Cap. I'm about to get some sleep. Wish me luck on this test tomorrow! Getting my degree is priority numero uno, so I have to make sure that I do well.
You wearing hats now?
 

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Mixed Signals of Insanity

Women are so crazy sometimes... I could use you guys' advice on how to proceed from here and what I'm doing wrong.

That HB 9.5 asked me when we were hanging out. So I waited two days, and then texted her "Hey what's your availability?"

Aaaaand left on read. What the hell? She was the one who asked ME to hang out! Lol.

She might just be trying to pull my chain and get attention. Which ESPECIALLY sucks because she's freshly single and I can't hook up with her. If I can't get her to text me back, I can't ever hang out/hook up with her. Makes me feel like my Game is shaky...

So guys, what do I do from here? I know she saw my text cause she was active on Instagram. Is she just using me for attention/validation? And why the hell can't I hook up with her when she's SINGLE? Really annoying situation, I wouldn't feel like I suck with women anymore if I could fvck an HB 9.5.

I don't think it's a good idea to double text her: that seems like overpursuing. I don't wanna be like "thanks for the text back." What's my next course of action, guys? Do I do Two Strikes and text her back in a week or just drop it?

I've been getting blown out too much by these hotter girls. Here are some theories I have.

1.) I'm not doing it for them physically. I just need to keep looksmaxxxing until I'm hot sex on toast.
2.) My game is bad. I am flirty with these women sometimes. I like flirting because it is fun. Is this a bad idea, am I giving her too much attention and validation by flirting and looking deep into her eyes and stuff? You guys let me know. Should I do what AMS says and hold a masculine frame all the time and completely conceal my interest level? I feel like this could definitely play a major part in it.

If I see her in person again, do I bring this up?

You guys let me know: I need some advice here.

I know I just talked about not getting confused but this has never happened to me before: a girl asking to hang then not responding to my text. What would be the Don Juan way to handle this?

I just fixed my text game too and now this lol...
 
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Mixed Signals of Insanity

Women are so crazy sometimes... I could use you guys' advice on how to proceed from here and what I'm doing wrong.

That HB 9.5 asked me when we were hanging out. So I waited two days, and then texted her "Hey what's your availability?"
You. Made a 9.5 even by your e standards and level of (dare i say) game, is clearly not doing it right.

Being aloof, blasé, nonchalant is great when you have a rotation.

Rather than faking being busy, actually have a life.

I don't have time to play games.

There's no mixed signal.


I lead. She follows or next. New girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.

Act accordingly.

Statement of intent. Tell he4 what you are doing. Tell her to come.

Anything you do should ALWAYS be uncompromising and of your interests. I am not going furniture shopping or art museums. I am not gay.

Pick inexpensive, concrete plans, and always seed a time restraint. This is uncompromising even if in mid pump SRS.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Even if you have no options and your game is sloppy, never elaborate the following. Seed dread, ambiguity, and vagueness to the max. No tolerance to flake, ghosting or anything else that is time consuming.


Every girl "problem" is solved by #nextSet and acquisition of top form SMV 18-23.

There's no bigger troll job than pulling hotter and younger and running into skanks who clearly missed the boat.
 

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You. Made a 9.5 even by your e standards and level of (dare i say) game, is clearly not doing it right.

Being aloof, blasé, nonchalant is great when you have a rotation.

Rather than faking being busy, actually have a life.

I don't have time to play games.

There's no mixed signal.


I lead. She follows or next. New girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.

Act accordingly.

Statement of intent. Tell he4 what you are doing. Tell her to come.

Anything you do should ALWAYS be uncompromising and of your interests. I am not going furniture shopping or art museums. I am not gay.

Pick inexpensive, concrete plans, and always seed a time restraint. This is uncompromising even if in mid pump SRS.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Even if you have no options and your game is sloppy, never elaborate the following. Seed dread, ambiguity, and vagueness to the max. No tolerance to flake, ghosting or anything else that is time consuming.


Every girl "problem" is solved by #nextSet and acquisition of top form SMV 18-23.

There's no bigger troll job than pulling hotter and younger and running into skanks who clearly missed the boat.
So since she's a flake forget it and keep approaching new hotties, correct? We had agreed to have her come over and write music before. Guess she just wanted attention.

I'll meet new women. But I just don't understand the point of asking someone to hang out then flaking on them from a human perspective(not even Game.) All that for attention?

But anyways. I'll meet some new women this week. And keep going to the gym to raise that SMV.

Would you agree that flirting with women, especially the hotter ones, is just giving away your nonsexual attention for free?
 

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You don't have the intelligence or aptitude for a career in programming. You're at a historically black college, schools which will admit anyone with a pulse. Grade inflation is rampant. SAT scores for admissions are irrelevant. Academically, they're community colleges offering a bachelor's and charging full price for a degree.

Even though you're going to a college with no admissions criteria aside from the ability to pay, you're getting D's, F's and W's. You're 22 and just barely at the point where you can pass a class at a C- level. Most people are set to graduate, and you haven't even yet passed a class in your "major."

You are below average in intelligence yet you expect to compete with people in the top 2% in intelligence, aptitude and work ethic upon graduation. Meanwhile, you're attention drifts from your hair, to chicken marinade, whether or not you can become a world class viola player even though you sleep through your lessons, and mackin on ugly ass hoes on tinder.

This journal is a combination of wishful thinking and outlandish unrealistic ambition, with small doses of reality crashing into your carefully fabricated house of delusion.
 

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You. Made a 9.5 even by your e standards and level of (dare i say) game, is clearly not doing it right.

Being aloof, blasé, nonchalant is great when you have a rotation.

Rather than faking being busy, actually have a life.

I don't have time to play games.

There's no mixed signal.


I lead. She follows or next. New girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.

Act accordingly.

Statement of intent. Tell he4 what you are doing. Tell her to come.

Anything you do should ALWAYS be uncompromising and of your interests. I am not going furniture shopping or art museums. I am not gay.

Pick inexpensive, concrete plans, and always seed a time restraint. This is uncompromising even if in mid pump SRS.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Even if you have no options and your game is sloppy, never elaborate the following. Seed dread, ambiguity, and vagueness to the max. No tolerance to flake, ghosting or anything else that is time consuming.


Every girl "problem" is solved by #nextSet and acquisition of top form SMV 18-23.

There's no bigger troll job than pulling hotter and younger and running into skanks who clearly missed the boat.
All what you are saying is stating the obvious, a guy that has been burned and left on read and then became bitter. You listed the obvious things to make yourself (the seducer) better but no matter the list she's still not replying to your messages.

This girl is not replying. Fact. And if she's not replying, the other 100 may not reply except the 1-5% high interest ones. Something to think about. Then somethings wrong. And just as you would sometimes reply to an unknown persons text, other times you would ignore it. One person managed to write the right things, other person couldn't.
 

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All what you are saying is stating the obvious, a guy that has been burned and left on read and then became bitter. You listed the obvious things to make yourself (the seducer) better but no matter the list she's still not replying to your messages.

This girl is not replying. Fact. And if she's not replying, the other 100 may not reply except the 1-5% high interest ones. Something to think about. Then somethings wrong. And just as you would sometimes reply to an unknown persons text, other times you would ignore it. One person managed to write the right things, other person couldn't.
I just wanna know where I went wrong here or if I'm just being played so that women can't pull that same BS on me in the future without me having a counter strategy. Tweaking my Game over time, right? I feel a separate thread for this coming on...
 

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Lmao I used to hate reading @DEEZEDBRAH 's posts. They read so choppy and random. But I think I speak deezed now and they're hilarious.

Nick, you're not doing it right cuz.

Waited 2 days to respond to her... Why? That's my guess as to what you did wrong.
She was ready, you decided to fake being high value instead of just telling her when you were free.

She left you on read just like you did her.

I would only text like 2 weeks from now. But if I knew I was gonna see her in person again, I'd just talk to her then. 1. Because I ain't no keyboard warrior and I wanna see how I'd deal with the situation in person and 2. Because double texting is last resort.

Also, there isn't a technique/recovery for everything. Sometimes you just gotta hold that L.
 

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Where did you go wrong? Anytime you appear more eager. It's a fine line and once you cross it, it dampens attraction. She needs space to desire you.

Counter Strategy? Silence and Distance = Remove your attention. Focus on other things in your life. Doing so will spark her curiosity and increase attraction again. It will build and eventually she will reach out to you again.
*Possibly.

But it shouldn't matter. You're on to bigger and better things, mate.
 

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The Future of this Journal

Alrighty guys...

I had originally wanted this to be a daily/weekly journal, but I don't think it needs to be anymore. I'm still improving, but
my progress has tapered off. That makes sense: progress starts off exponentially and then levels off for a while.

Although I will say I've come leaps and bounds from the first post in my journal and I'm really happy with that. I'm passing classes, can do a basic Cold Approach, actually have sex like 3 times a week, set up a counseling center appointment, learned a lot about life in general, etc etc. Especially with all the tough love you guys gave me. I am so grateful for that cause y'all helped me see who I really am and whats important. It feels great knowing that I'm actually gonna pass Databases and Calculus 2.

Originally I had wanted to do daily updates because:
1.) I didn't know if I could do it without you guys guiding me every step of the way
And
2.) I wanted to get everything down onto paper and get hella knowledge.

Although honestly, I think there's still progress to be made. I wanna tell you guys about stuff like Lay Report 20, Cold Approach 150, me graduating college, becoming a violinist/composer, getting some work experience, implementing personal projects and so on. From all the advice I've been given, I think I know about 95% of what I need to know to fix my life. I just need to get out there and do it. I've noticed in the first half of my journal I was still fresh, and I was learning something new from every approach. The second half has been more about me learning about life and getting my emotions straight. Which is fine: but I have a tendency to repeat myself a lot in my writing and I want all these things logged without 1000 pages of text.

But to make that progress, end on a high note, and not make this journal over 1000 pages... I was thinking I could zoooooom out and do monthly updates. That would fix the problem of me repeating myself and still allow me to make the remaining progress. I feel I'm nowhere near where I want to be with that yet but now that we've had the "Newbie Saga" and "Inner Game Saga" I don't wanna bloat this journal any more, although I think there is some great advice and information in here. I already know how to Cold Approach so I'll keep a separate record of that on my Computer. I've still got to tell you guys about me getting my CS Degree and succeeding! So I'll chill out and only update the really big things. On top of that, having an update to do every month will keep me motivated to stay on my purpose so I can actually have stuff to tell you guys on my DJ Progress.

I'll still be on SS of course, so hit me up any time you wanna talk. If I ever get stuck, I'll just make a thread on Don Juan Discussion.

So TL;DR... monthly updates!!!
 
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You wasted so much fvcking time on this journal. Chicken marinade, sh1tty cheap kicks, 5 second haircuts, who knows what else. You should've spent all of it studying for your major classes instead. You've fvcked yourself badly because you have zero sense of priorities, no ability to plan and show no ability to realistically assess your actual abilities and plan for your future as a result. This is why you avoid anyone who might hold you accountable, and has some grasp on reality, such as your counselor or parents. Who has a 'counselor' in college anyway?

Historically black colleges are a gift. They have the lowest academic standards anywhere in the western world. They are below remedial level. Yet, your transcript is full of D's, F's and W's. It's crazy that you think you can compete for a job with your abilities and transcript. You're going to go head to head with MIT and Caltech grads who are phi beta kappa and magna cvm laude. I know many people in silicon valley and others who work in austin, los angeles and other major tech centers. 99%+ are white, east asian or asian indian. In addition to the caltech, mit and stanford grads, you'll be gunning against tons of students from excellent schools in the other ivies, and top state schools like michigan and the university of texas. Below that, you'll be outgunned by very talented students who had less money and attended good schools like san jose state, texas a&m, etc. There are many intermediate tiers with too many schools to mention. You on the other hand, are at a bottom tier school with bottom tier grades. In fact, you don't even have grades. A W is a not a grade.

Your no. 1 job right now is to stop mind fvcking yourself and stop believing your own bullsh1t.

I won't offer any concrete advice because you don't have the intelligence to process it, much less apply it. This journal is a serious warning for everyone. Don't mind fvck yourself into believing your own bullsh1t. Learn to distinguish between optimism and delusion. Because nick hasn't. Don't be like nick. Fo' real.
 
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The Future of this Journal

Alrighty guys...

I had originally wanted this to be a daily/weekly journal, but I don't think it needs to be anymore. I'm still improving, but
my progress has tapered off. That makes sense: progress starts off exponentially and then levels off for a while.

Although I will say I've come leaps and bounds from the first post in my journal and I'm really happy with that. I'm passing classes, can do a basic Cold Approach, actually have sex like 3 times a week, set up a counseling center appointment, learned a lot about life in general, etc etc. Especially with all the tough love you guys gave me. I am so grateful for that cause y'all helped me see who I really am and whats important. It feels great knowing that I'm actually gonna pass Databases and Calculus 2.

Originally I had wanted to do daily updates because:
1.) I didn't know if I could do it without you guys guiding me every step of the way
And
2.) I wanted to get everything down onto paper and get hella knowledge.

Although honestly, I think there's still progress to be made. I wanna tell you guys about stuff like Lay Report 20, Cold Approach 150, me graduating college, becoming a violinist/composer, getting some work experience, implementing personal projects and so on. From all the advice I've been given, I think I know about 95% of what I need to know to fix my life. I just need to get out there and do it. I've noticed in the first half of my journal I was still fresh, and I was learning something new from every approach. The second half has been more about me learning about life and getting my emotions straight. Which is fine: but I have a tendency to repeat myself a lot in my writing and I want all these things logged without 1000 pages of text.

But to make that progress, end on a high note, and not make this journal over 1000 pages... I was thinking I could zoooooom out and do monthly updates. That would fix the problem of me repeating myself and still allow me to make the remaining progress. I feel I'm nowhere near where I want to be with that yet but now that we've had the "Newbie Saga" and "Inner Game Saga" I don't wanna bloat this journal any more, although I think there is some great advice and information in here. I already know how to Cold Approach so I'll keep a separate record of that on my Computer. I've still got to tell you guys about me getting my CS Degree and succeeding! So I'll chill out and only update the really big things. On top of that, having an update to do every month will keep me motivated to stay on my purpose so I can actually have stuff to tell you guys on my DJ Progress.

I'll still be on SS of course, so hit me up any time you wanna talk. If I ever get stuck, I'll just make a thread on Don Juan Discussion.

So TL;DR... monthly updates!!!
Word of advice, if you decided to do this because of troll posts, then you need to work on having tough skin. Laugh and move on! You have a follower, a guy who took his time and wrote his thoughts to you! How generous :) This guy is not the first, not the last you'll ever meet. Your journal is only 58 pages (with comments+good advice) so I wouldn't be worried about the 1000 pages report. On the other hand, if you are really busy with everything, then yes, do what you feel is necessary. But either way, I enjoyed reading your journal and I know that degrees ain't easy. So keep working, pass everything and adopt a positive healthy mindset. We need more good people in this planet and don't let the anger/toxicity lure you. It ain't charismatic!
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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