"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Touching on first date.

flowtheory

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Do women often touch you guys on first dates? I’ve found I can touch, and they do not recoil, however seldomly do they touch or reach out to me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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old_skoolr

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I usually start kino with a high 5 or a fist bump.

It's usually when she's said something or done something I approve of.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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We all know some girls will actually have sex on first date even if you just met.

But for the rest of them, I´ll grab her hand or arm when we are both laughing very hard. If she agrees to second date, I´ll put my arm around her waist.
 

The Duke

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Few women initiate touching on the first date. It goes along with everything else women do......they look for men to take the lead.
 

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Depends entirely on the context.

If you are actually strangers who just met and barely know each other (OLD and you exchanged numbers and set a date in under an hour then went ghost til the day of), then probably hold off on touching until you receive a green light and things seem to be going very well (or she touches you first)

But in the far more likely scenario that you guys have talked and known each other for days/weeks beforehand (classmates, co-workers/social circle/etc. And anyone you interacted with a lot, like cashiers at your local supermarket) then of course you should start kinoing ASAP and work your way up slowly.

If she thinks of you as a total stranger and you didn't just meet, that's a horrible sign
 
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