my cousin there, the blonde, none of her previous boyfriends are half as good looking as i am
mostly dorky looking Russian dudes
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
My cousin has a gorgeous Armenian friend in Toronto
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mostly dorky looking Russian dudes
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
corrector
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Everyone has dreams and nightmares, and yes, sometimes you hear voices within your dreams or nightmare. You don't ever dream when you fall asleep?
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
And the crowd goes wild
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Lol
we'll see if it leads to anything
I'm very very attracted to both her and the one in New York but I can't wrap my mind around the logistics of starting something with either of them
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Keep it simple. If she has lust then sex.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Keep it down. Very few guys are able to use the over talking approach to break thru. The rest of us will kill interest.
Verify interest for a next meetup. Verify she thinks your attractive and when you see her escalate. Try to get intimate
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Once you got it setup that she thinks your cool and the next meetup your good.
I think you fly her to you so shes on your turf.
BeExcellent
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You wish.Yeah and it's all 100% bullsh-t.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Does your senior center internet connection have a data cap? It doesn't look like it lol
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
Opinions on what? There isn't really anything more to say at the present moment because nothing has happened.
Get her out on a date or fvck her or get her to send nudes or something, then the situation will have progressed enough to require fresh eyes and new hot takes
Get her out on a date or fvck her or get her to send nudes or something, then the situation will have progressed enough to require fresh eyes and new hot takes
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
why the fuq did you start this thread if you already knew what you were going to do?
jiminy christmas what a drama queen.
Definitely DO NOT call this woman. You'll make her uncomfortable just by texting her. That's how much your desperation reeks.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.