Bill Cosby Going to Jail

[meldiamond]

Strange when you've read how she took $3.4 million and the worst part of it, after the said "rape" she went back 2 his house for some party - even gave him a gift.

There's an anomaly with what she says and what she does.

I'd always believe that what a person does is actually what they wanted/desired rather then what a person says - as a general rule of thumb.

Which woman is this? I'd like to read more about this case.

Donald Trump has faced probably dozens of false accusers at this point. The difference between the Trump accusers and the Cosby accusers is that none of the trump accusers were willing to go to court. At least one of Trump's accusers actually held a press conference begging him not to sue for libel or defamation!

Many of the Cosby accusers were willing to testify under oath. It's one thing to say some crazy sh@t. It's another to go under oath and face felony charges for false testimony.

Look at the Kavanaugh accusers. They are not willing to testify, period. They are trying to take this guy down while limiting their legal liability.

Bill Clinton was sued and was forced to pay out a settlement of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Many men are falsely accused, but some are not. The volume of accusers, and their willingness to testify, even eagerness to testify, are important pieces of evidence.

Anyway, tell us who she is, and I'll be sure to look into it further.

 

[Billtx49]

Which woman is this? I'd like to read more about this case.

Many of the Cosby accusers were willing to testify under oath. It's one thing to say some crazy sh@t. It's another to go under oath.

Anyway, tell us who she is, and I'll be sure to look into it further.

Read the thread dude. As I understand it, the only woman out of 60 that nailed Crosby, was the one that filed before the statute of limitations ran out on her.
Btw-Try to not talk out of your azz…

 

[meldiamond]

Read the thread dude. The only woman out of 60 that nailed Crosby, was the one that filed before the statute of limitations ran out on her.

She nailed Crosby? Did she literally nail Crosby to a cross? Is that where you get the term? She nailed Bill Cosby to a cross, so let's call him Bill Crosby lol

 

[Billtx49]

She nailed Crosby? Did she literally nail Crosby to a cross? Is that where you get the term? She nailed Bill Cosby to a cross, so let's call him Bill Crosby lol

Btw-try not to talk out of your azz. Save yourself some personal embarrassment …

 

[meldiamond]

Btw-try not to talk out of your azz. Save yourself some personal embarrassment …

LOL, why so serious bro? Why do you not even want to mention her name? If she was leveling phony accusations, you'd be eager to put her name out there. Instead, you are hiding and getting overly emotional for no reason.

 

[meldiamond]

One thing I find very odd is that black men who are accused are so vehemently defended. When Kobe Bryant was accused of rape, multiple men found the accuser's information and phoned death threats. One guy even plotted to kill her and contacted Kobe Bryant for payment to silence her.

OJ Simpson: every black person in america thought he was innocent. He eventually gave a detailed interview, describing in exact detail how he committed the double homicide. He even wrote a book trying to make money describing how he committed double homicide!

Here's OJ's confession to the double homicide. His testimony begins at around 45:20 in. Notice he laughs about the events. He seems to take great satisfaction with the events and with getting away with it. Truly a psychopath.

A summary of his book confessing to murders:

https://www.businessinsider.com/if-i-did-it-how-oj-simpson-2016-2

Now it's Bill Crosby and so many are defending him against "thots."

Yet, almost no one defends Harvey Weinstein and it's clear that he didn't actually rape anyone, whereas Bill Crosby did on dozens of occasions.

 

[meldiamond]

Strange when you've read how she took $3.4 million and the worst part of it, after the said "rape" she went back 2 his house for some party - even gave him a gift.

There's an anomaly with what she says and what she does.

I'd always believe that what a person does is actually what they wanted/desired rather then what a person says - as a general rule of thumb.

Citation?

OTOH, you could argue that if Cosby was innocent, he would not have a motivation to pay such an enormous sum of money to buy her silence.

 

[meldiamond]

@ spaz where is the citation where she or someone else said Constand went to a Crosby party and gave him a gift? I don't know if this is true or not, I just want to read your source since I have not seen such a story online.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/business/media/bill-cosby-charged-in-sexual-assault-case.html

Mr. Cosby became a “mentor” and “friend” to Ms. Constand, Mr. Steele said, and in early 2004 she went to his home in Cheltenham Township. According to the accusations, Mr. C(r)osby urged her to take pills and drink wine until she was unable to move, after which he assaulted her.

“The evidence is strong and sufficient to proceed,” said Mr. Steele, now first assistant district attorney. “A person in that state cannot give consent,” he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/us/bill-cosby-trial-andrea-constand/index.html

In describing the alleged assault at Cosby's home near Philadelphia, Constand explained that after she took the blue pills, she felt "very weak" and was "slurring my words." Cosby "placed me on the sofa on my left side, and he put a pillow under my head and said just relax there," she said.

"The next thing I recall is, um, I was kind of jolted awake, and felt Mr. Cosby on the couch beside me, behind me, and my vagina was being penetrated quite forcefully," Constand testified. "I felt my breasts being touched, and he took my hand and placed my hand on his penis and masturbated himself with my hand. And I was not able to do a thing to fight back.
"I felt his fingers going inside of my vagina, going in and out, very forcefully," she said.
"My next memory was getting up off the couch, seeing, my bra was up around my neck and my pants were kind of half unzipped," Constand continued. "I had to kind of get myself together ... and started walking toward the door."
Cosby told her there was a muffin and tea on the table, Constand testified. She sipped the tea, took the top of the muffin and drove herself home.

 

[meldiamond]

The transcripts i saw show that he partied with them and supplied the drugs with them being fully aware of it. He also clarified he never snuck it in without them being aware. Were tired of men being put away with false rape allegations. And if you have to accept rape or being forced to be gay or being forced to screw your family over to be in a career do you think thats wise? You want to join the ranks of the devil and do what it takes happily so?

Even if they consented to a drink and/or drugs, he doesn't have a right to have sex with them while they are impaired. This is rape.

Why did he need to offer them drugs? Why has he joked about drugging girls in order to have sex with them in interviews, and in standup routines?

 

[Spaz]

Citation?

OTOH, you could argue that if Cosby was innocent, he would not have a motivation to pay such an enormous sum of money to buy her silence.

Whats this ?

Getting all excited, even impatient over a citation, even posting 2 post requesting for 1.

Hold on 2 ur horses young man.

Aren't u the guy who's projecting around here that he's a Chad ? Without any citation or verifiable proof but that's fine, I've been asked the same a few times and provided it all with pictures followed by texts.



There you go Chad, I've made it easy for you.

Oh dear, it was not a party but a blooming show that she went with her family and gave him a gift....after the rape.

 

[meldiamond]

Where can we read the rest of the text? And what is the source?

 

[Spaz]

Chad,

I read it after typing $3.4 million Cosby.

Don't be lazy, put in some effort - use Google.

 

[meldiamond]

So here is the source spaz refused to identify. Not sure why he wouldn't cite his source. Afraid somebody might read it and arrive at a different conclusion than his?

Anyway, the article claims that Castor refused to prosecute in order to force Crosby to testify in a civil suit.

In the civil suit, Crosby testified that he gave quaaludes to women in order to have sex with them. Remember, this is Crosby's testimony under oath.

The article further goes on to claim that Castor himself made contradictory and inconsistent statements to multiple parties. Therefore, Castor may not be a reliable source when reporting on the facts of the Costand case.

Verdict: Castor is a shady, unreliable motherf#cker.

Anyway, go ahead and read the article below, the one spaz refused to cite.

https://www.delcotimes.com/news/ex-...cle_f2dafdaf-fdaa-56ea-b9cd-5b4f19b3b6ae.html

“Mr. Cosby was not getting prosecuted ever, as far as I (Castor) was concerned. I made the decision as the sovereign that Mr. Cosby would not be prosecuted no matter what,” said Castor, adding there wasn’t enough “reliable and admissible” evidence to prosecute Cosby in 2005. “There was no way the case could get better over time, absent Mr. Cosby confessing.”

The decision, Castor said, was made to create an atmosphere that would induce Cosby to testify in Constand’s civil litigation against him and allow Constand to prevail civilly and “make a lot of money.” That decision not to prosecute, Castor implied, removed from Cosby the ability to claim his Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination, thus forcing him to sit for a deposition under oath in the civil case in 2005.

“I went to Wally Phillips and told him that was my legal theory and he agreed with that. The case wasn’t going to get any better and this was the best way to get some level of justice for Andrea,” Castor testified. “It was my specific intent to create no wiggle room. I wanted Cosby to have to testify under oath.

Current prosecutors reopened the investigation last July after Cosby’s deposition connected to the 2005 civil suit was unsealed by a judge. In that deposition, Cosby gave damaging testimony, allegedly admitting he obtained Quaaludes to give to women with whom he wanted to have sex.

During his intense cross-examination of Castor, Ryan implied Castor contradicted himself and made inconsistent statements about his decision during testimony, comments to reporters over the years and in the September 2015 email to Ferman.

 

[meldiamond]

Chad,

I read it after typing $3.4 million Cosby.

Don't be lazy, put in some effort - use Google.

LOL, why so mad bro? Go out and get laid. It's obvious you haven't in a while.

In any event, I'm just curious about the facts. They're important. You clearly believe Crosby is innocent. However, his testimony in the civil suit Costand filed against him clearly indicates he drugged women for the purpose of incapacitating them for sex.

This is Crosby's own testimony.

Also, while Castor claimed Costand's statements were contradictory and inconsistent, others have said the same about his statements regarding Costand. So, in effect, Castor is just as unreliable as he claims Costand is, throwing his assessment of Costand's case into question.

I do think there are significant question marks about Costand's case, namely about why she waited a year to report the incident, but then again, Castor does not appear to be very principled himself.

Anyway, I'm open to learning more about the case.

edit: it appears that Costand and Crosby spoke several times on the phone and that Costand recorded some of them. Likely to gather evidence. So contacts after the rape were to establish evidence. I don't know about the admission of taped conversations, but it appears that she contacted Crosby possibly to incriminate him.

"Castor testified investigators determined Constand had several phone conversations with Cosby in the year after she alleged she had been sexually assaulted by the comedian at his Cheltenham home. Some of those conversations, Castor testified, had been secretly recorded."

Castor does seem to have solid grounds for his claim that Costand made an error in waiting a year to come to the police:

“There was no, what we refer to as a prompt complaint, in this case. It was almost exactly a year. It’s of enormous significance,” said Castor, explaining a prompt complaint bolsters a victim’s claims, adding the time lapse also prevented authorities from obtaining trace evidence, such as DNA, hairs or fibers. “The longer time goes by, the less likely things are going to be found.”

Costand has countered saying that Crosby's image in the public eye meant she would have enormous difficulty getting justice in a criminal trial.

Strangely, Castor claimed that only a confession on the part of Crosby would improve Costand's case. Yet, Crosby, did in effect confess to buying drugs to incapacitate women for sex, although it doesn't appear as if he confessed to the rape of Costand in particular:

“There was no way the case could get better over time, absent Mr. Cosby confessing.”


Here's some information on Crosby's date rape of choice, quaaludes. At higher dosages they completely incapacitate the victim. They were banned in the US in 1984.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/quaal...omehow-even-scarier-than-you-think?ref=scroll

 

[Billtx49]

Also, while Castor claimed Costand's statements were contradictory and inconsistent, others have said the same about his statements regarding Costand.
I do think there are significant question marks about Costand's
Anyway, I'm open to learning more about the case.

Try to learn more about the case regarding how her name is spelled dude, its Constand.
Legal talk tends to be specific.

 

[meldiamond]

Try to learn more about the case regarding how her name is spelled dude, its Constand.

Check out posts 73 and 74. Crosby testified under oath that he drugged women with quaaludes in order to have sex with them. Quaaludes were banned in 1984 btw.

So, yes, by Crosby's own sworn testimony he drugged women in order to rape them.

It is reasonable to conclude then that the women who came forward to claim that Crosby drugged and raped them were in fact drugged and raped by Crosby, as Crosby himself testified.

This is a sworn deposition. This is not hearsay or random accusers; it is straight from the horse's mouth.

 

[meldiamond]

It's so hilarious that Crosby's defenders are so insulting and focus on childish, irrelevant taunts instead of focusing on the case itself. What do they have to hide?

They obviously know Crosby is guilty--they just hope that their idiotic teasing will somehow make you go away and not point out the facts.

Crosby is a rapist plain and simple. He said so himself. Under oath. And he paid out $3.4 million in a settlement to keep one of the many victims silent.

 

[meldiamond]

Oh dear, it was not a party but a blooming show that she went with her family and gave him a gift....after the rape.

Is it possible that he was successful in gaslighting her by claiming that he offered her "herbal medicine" rather than quaaludes?

Perhaps she was also discouraged by the possibility of winning her case in a criminal trial given Crosby's public image as a family man and medical doctor even though it was all an illusion based on a fake tv show?

 

[Spaz]

So here is the source spaz refused to identify. Not sure why he wouldn't cite his source. Afraid somebody might read it and arrive at a different conclusion than his?

Anyway, the article claims that Castor refused to prosecute in order to force Crosby to testify in a civil suit.

In the civil suit, Crosby testified that he gave quaaludes to women in order to have sex with them. Remember, this is Crosby's testimony under oath.

The article further goes on to claim that Castor himself made contradictory and inconsistent statements to multiple parties. Therefore, Castor may not be a reliable source when reporting on the facts of the Costand case.

Verdict: Castor is a shady, unreliable motherf#cker.

Anyway, go ahead and read the article below, the one spaz refused to cite.

https://www.delcotimes.com/news/ex-...cle_f2dafdaf-fdaa-56ea-b9cd-5b4f19b3b6ae.html

“Mr. Cosby was not getting prosecuted ever, as far as I (Castor) was concerned. I made the decision as the sovereign that Mr. Cosby would not be prosecuted no matter what,” said Castor, adding there wasn’t enough “reliable and admissible” evidence to prosecute Cosby in 2005. “There was no way the case could get better over time, absent Mr. Cosby confessing.”

The decision, Castor said, was made to create an atmosphere that would induce Cosby to testify in Constand’s civil litigation against him and allow Constand to prevail civilly and “make a lot of money.” That decision not to prosecute, Castor implied, removed from Cosby the ability to claim his Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination, thus forcing him to sit for a deposition under oath in the civil case in 2005.

“I went to Wally Phillips and told him that was my legal theory and he agreed with that. The case wasn’t going to get any better and this was the best way to get some level of justice for Andrea,” Castor testified. “It was my specific intent to create no wiggle room. I wanted Cosby to have to testify under oath.

Current prosecutors reopened the investigation last July after Cosby’s deposition connected to the 2005 civil suit was unsealed by a judge. In that deposition, Cosby gave damaging testimony, allegedly admitting he obtained Quaaludes to give to women with whom he wanted to have sex.

During his intense cross-examination of Castor, Ryan implied Castor contradicted himself and made inconsistent statements about his decision during testimony, comments to reporters over the years and in the September 2015 email to Ferman.

I refused 2 identify?

I'm just enjoying seeing u get all hyped up by pushing a few simple buttons hahaha

I'm having serious doubts abt ur claims as being a ladies man now.

Want 2 know how ?

Would u like a citation? Haha

 

[meldiamond]

The point being Crosby has already admitted to raping women with date rape drugs by his own admission under sworn testimony.

There is no ambiguity here.