"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do I need to relax my standards on women's body?

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I'm only really attracted to women who are both fit and curvy - you guys know the type I am talking about - the instagram models with thick muscular legs and fat asses.




the problem is

1)I only see those women consistently at gyms, where an approach is very difficult because they're all wearing headphones

2)I can find them on dating sites but then, I'm basically looking for attractive 25 year olds with no kids/nice personality/decent job/classy and smart who also have great bodies on dating sites...every man on the planet wants that. How am I gonna stand out among the 848484448484844884 men messaging her? I'm only about a 7 in pics. Im sure there will be tons of 10/10 males messaging that

3)Outside of gyms and online dating, where else am I gonna find what I want?

so then the question becomes, do I settle for a very cute girl with great personality but with average body and try to get her in fantastic shape? I see tons of italian and Latin girls (that's my type, I love dark features) who would look fantastic after training properly for 9 months. They just dunno what the hell they're doing in the gym. Would most women be open to adopting my lifestyle?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It's hard to meet them in the gym. If you do yoga though you will socialize for a small bit just before and just after the class lets out. I wouldn't try to meet anyone in the main workout area's get your work done, no one wants to be interrupted.
 

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It's hard to meet them in the gym. If you do yoga though you will socialize for a small bit just before and just after the class lets out. I wouldn't try to meet anyone in the main workout area's get your work done, no one wants to be interrupted.
you know what, people say that, but I've made plenty of friends even talking to people who are wearing their headphones. i'll just make a casual comment about surroundings and go from there. I'm very likeable instantly so that probably helps.

but it's much much easier making male friends than getting women to go out with you on a date
 

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you know what, people say that, but I've made plenty of friends even talking to people who are wearing their headphones. i'll just make a casual comment about surroundings and go from there. I'm very likeable instantly so that probably helps.

but it's much much easier making male friends than getting women to go out with you on a date
In yoga there is a socializing component of standing in line before and after that gets you close to the people in the room. So you will notice people who come for that same class and may be some opportunity to exchange numbers. A good hookup in the gym is if they have a juice or smoothie bar in the gym, mention in your convo your going to grab you one. Maybe they might join you.

And women with bodies like that are a dime a dozen too. For the americans it will be former ex high school and collegiate atheletes. There are plenty of them, but they are usually tight to a social circle and follow the pecking order.

From the info I have now, I think we need to first worry about being "players" before even worrying about a relationship. Women are just so used to it. And no reason to want a relationship unless she adds to you greatly. A good looking and sex is not enough. She's gotta add to you and consistently support and have your back.
 

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In yoga there is a socializing component of standing in line before and after that gets you close to the people in the room. So you will notice people who come for that same class and may be some opportunity to exchange numbers. A good hookup in the gym is if they have a juice or smoothie bar in the gym, mention in your convo your going to grab you one. Maybe they might join you.

And women with bodies like that are a dime a dozen too. For the americans it will be former ex high school and collegiate atheletes. There are plenty of them, but they are usually tight to a social circle and follow the pecking order.

From the info I have now, I think we need to first worry about being "players" before even worrying about a relationship. Women are just so used to it. And no reason to want a relationship unless she adds to you greatly. A good looking and sex is not enough. She's gotta add to you and consistently support and have your back.
I'm not getting into a relationship with anybody unless they're genuinely a fantastic person through and through

and women with bodies like that are nowhere near dime a dozen, what are you smoking bro? 90% of women nowadays are either fat or frumpy/avg bodies
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm not getting into a relationship with anybody unless they're genuinely a fantastic person through and through

and women with bodies like that are nowhere near dime a dozen, what are you smoking bro? 90% of women nowadays are either fat or frumpy/avg bodies
Depends upon where you look . If you look around gym or dance classes a lot of the ladies will be built. Check out title boxing too, they have like 60-80% females in many of the classes. I said yoga as well, yoga is mostly females.
 

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Depends upon where you look . If you look around gym or dance classes a lot of the ladies will be built. Check out title boxing too, they have like 60-80% females in many of the classes. I said yoga as well, yoga is mostly females.
still very small percentage of general population
 

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Becareful with yoga classes. You have hot women in really tight clothes, but you also have large hippos in those tights too. The good with the bad...
 

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you guys need to come to Finland
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm only really attracted to women who are both fit and curvy - you guys know the type I am talking about - the instagram models with thick muscular legs and fat asses.




the problem is

1)I only see those women consistently at gyms, where an approach is very difficult because they're all wearing headphones

2)I can find them on dating sites but then, I'm basically looking for attractive 25 year olds with no kids/nice personality/decent job/classy and smart who also have great bodies on dating sites...every man on the planet wants that. How am I gonna stand out among the 848484448484844884 men messaging her? I'm only about a 7 in pics. Im sure there will be tons of 10/10 males messaging that

3)Outside of gyms and online dating, where else am I gonna find what I want?

so then the question becomes, do I settle for a very cute girl with great personality but with average body and try to get her in fantastic shape? I see tons of italian and Latin girls (that's my type, I love dark features) who would look fantastic after training properly for 9 months. They just dunno what the hell they're doing in the gym. Would most women be open to adopting my lifestyle?
Hell No. You maintain your standards. You go for the nice abs, big tits, and preferably with a belly ring / tramp stamp (I like em kinda slutty but trying to be good). If you ugly as hell, then you need to work on getting ripped and/or getting rich.
 

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Hell No. You maintain your standards. You go for the nice abs, big tits, and preferably with a belly ring / tramp stamp (I like em kinda slutty but trying to be good). If you ugly as hell, then you need to work on getting ripped and/or getting rich.
did you read the thread bro?

I'm good looking, ripped and rich...but I'm only about a 7/10 in the face which makes it difficult to do online dating
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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my anaconda dont want none... unless its got buns, hun
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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