"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Being late 15 min for first date good or na?
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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marmel75
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^^^This
devilkingx2
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think of it like a neg, you neg a model, not a chubby 6 or a depressed goth chick (those are just examples, you're probably not going to date chubby 6's nor victoria's secret angels, but you get the idea)
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Igetit!
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Why don't you try this tactic at your place of employment a few times,and let us know how it goes.
Show up 30 min late and some women will have sex with you.
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marmel75
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Lol she would be on a date before you got there with someone else
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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When I finally walked in and sat down she was BRIGHT RED. I was expecting some sort of rage, but instead she just said "I was psyched to meet you and now over the twenty minutes I've just become really nervous."
That's right - for some reason she was nervous and embarrassed because I was late...!
Anyway I broke the usual rules and picked up the meal as recompense, drove her home, made out in my car.
IMO be a gent about it. Don't bust your arse to get their early (and if she leaves after 10 mins she's just a b*tch), but at the same time if you're very late - you should offer to pick up the tab or otherwise politely apologise (without being a siss about it).
devilkingx2
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This is the other thing to consider.
On the one hand, an HB6 is used to being treated badly by guys, so if you want that first date anal show up with flowers. But she'll be way more forgiving of your bull**** for the same reason
On the other hand an HB9 is likely used to being treated like a princess, so if you show up looking like you walked out of bed, still wearing your pajamas, 15 minutes late. You'll stand out from every other guy but also consider that she'll probably not put up with a whole lot of BS because she doesn't have to
It's a balancing act, show up too late and she'll be on a different date when you get there, but if you find the sweet spot and show up only a little late you'll give off a really alpha IDGAF vibe