Trainwreck
Master Don Juan
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I can figure everything else in life, but women. Am I just genetically inferior?
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lolHow do you try? Is it online dating?
Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.
Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.
I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5You need Social Circles and Day game
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
overconfidenceI can figure everything else in life
I wouldn’t consider myself ugly, or at least I don’t think I qualify for only whales lol. I have a decent job and car too.There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
i have heard some using that word before but what is exactly a frame if i may ask ?
Women are attracted to men with game, not money.There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
Don't do OLD.Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lol
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Guys, Jesus...can we get some positivity? I feel like every thread is just people whining or ranting en masse lately. I rant too, but I try to keep it constructive. All this blame-game and "it's everyone else's fault" is really getting hard to read.How do you try? Is it online dating?
Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.
Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.
If you don't have a social circle you're not going to get women in your life. It's like bricking up the door to your house and complaining that you're not getting out enough.I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.