"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"You're too old. That's gross."

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Hey everybody, I'm lookin for responses to this sentiment. It's weird I can't find posts about this! I imagine they're here, but can't findem. I'd appreciate responses, or links to any previous posts made about this. Thanks
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sounds like a sh!t test to me. Agree and amplify, maybe?

It reminds me of a story I read where these two girls were at a party and an aged Bruce Willis was hitting on them and acting like a big shot. They said something like "Ugh, he was so old! But we would have fvcked him if he wasn't acting like such a jack@ss". I always thought that was kind of funny. And there's a lesson in there somewhere.
 

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Sounds like a sh!t test to me. Agree and amplify, maybe?

It reminds me of a story I read where these two girls were at a party and an aged Bruce Willis was hitting on them and acting like a big shot. They said something like "Ugh, he was so old! But we would have fvcked him if he wasn't acting like such a jack@ss". I always thought that was kind of funny. And there's a lesson in there somewhere.
Well ya I imagine this is a real common stumblin block for people in the "Mature Man" section. It's weird I cannot find posts on it. Thanks for the response @zekko
 

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OK, bye ... at least that's what I would say.

Sounds like a sh!t test to me. Agree and amplify, maybe?
That was a rude remark she just made. Why keep supplicating for her attention by playing the circus monkey role? :rolleyes:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Don't deal with or ruminate on things that girls who dont really show u interest or treat u like u want say or do. Its pointless. Just by giving it any mind, you're already takin an L..
 

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You mean you approach a girl, hit on her/show some intent, and she looks disgusted and tells you that you are too old?

There's all kinds of PUA theory you could implement, but it's all just marketing/theoretical BS tbh; Most common advice is to consider it a 'test' and then agree and amplify - 'yeah, i'm old enough to be your grandad. Anyway, lets go out tomorrow' kind of thing.

It doesn't work though lol.

Not everything is a 'test'. (in fact, girls 'test' you way way less than PUA's want you to believe! They often don't want to risk losing you if they are actually attracted!) I've heard deluded PUA's say everything is a test to the point there's nothing a girl could say to them that they would take as a 'no'. They'd consider a restraining order a 'sh1t test'

If a girl isn't into you (she thinks you are too old and ugly or whatever e.g she's simply not sexually ATTRACTED to you or interested in that way) then there's nothing you can do about that.

Say goodbye and Move on to the next girl.

This really isn't a game of 'skill' as such. Even the best PUA's can't negotiate attraction and turn 'no's into 'yes's', as we can see from infields.
It's a numbers game.
Choose your battles
 
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I do cold approach and day/night game and I get the you're too old periodically. It's weird. Some girls like experienced, mature men, for others it's some kind of moral sin, they look at you as if you're perverse. It's one of those Ls you'll have to get used to as you get older, it seems.
 

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At my age I don't get it very often, because these days my target demographic are themselves at least in their 30s.....

I have however replied to that with something along the lines of... "Your loss..... ask a friend who's had a guy who knows what he's doing".... and just walk away.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hey everybody, I'm lookin for responses to this sentiment. It's weird I can't find posts about this! I imagine they're here, but can't findem. I'd appreciate responses, or links to any previous posts made about this. Thanks
OK. Sounds like just a general lack of interest. Find someone interested. If they thought you were hot be assured your age wouldn't matter. Especially since many women like older men.
 

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Hey boys, just a clarifier here. I'm wantin to know how to overcome this objection, in general. No girl has said this to me.

How do you overcome a ST based on being older?
 
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Well ya I imagine this is a real common stumblin block for people in the "Mature Man" section.
I think it depends on just how old you are. If you're my age (north of 60), yeah it might be a little gross lol. But if you're in your 30s, it's just nonsense. Even in your 40s, no matter what the girl says, if she's attracted to you, your age doesn't matter. You think she'd pass up a date with Leonardo DiCaprio just because he's 48? And he isn't even in shape.

But if she's not attracted to you, there isn't much you can do. The main thing to do, if you're wanting to push past her objection, is to be unfazed by her comment, don't let it shake you, and don't appear to be affected by it. If anything, be amused by it. If you're looking for a specific line or something, someone else will have to give you one, because IMO these PUA lines always look stupid on paper.
 

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She flat out insulted with you the "gross" comment.

Even if you playfully turn it around (and/or act unphased) and she later finds that you're a cool guy that didn't deserve such an insult, you are still at high risk for friendzone.

A lot of PUA techniques are based on keeping the conversation/interaction going (at all cost) even when there is little to no attraction.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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