"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"You're too old. That's gross."

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Hey everybody, I'm lookin for responses to this sentiment. It's weird I can't find posts about this! I imagine they're here, but can't findem. I'd appreciate responses, or links to any previous posts made about this. Thanks
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sounds like a sh!t test to me. Agree and amplify, maybe?

It reminds me of a story I read where these two girls were at a party and an aged Bruce Willis was hitting on them and acting like a big shot. They said something like "Ugh, he was so old! But we would have fvcked him if he wasn't acting like such a jack@ss". I always thought that was kind of funny. And there's a lesson in there somewhere.
 

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Sounds like a sh!t test to me. Agree and amplify, maybe?

It reminds me of a story I read where these two girls were at a party and an aged Bruce Willis was hitting on them and acting like a big shot. They said something like "Ugh, he was so old! But we would have fvcked him if he wasn't acting like such a jack@ss". I always thought that was kind of funny. And there's a lesson in there somewhere.
Well ya I imagine this is a real common stumblin block for people in the "Mature Man" section. It's weird I cannot find posts on it. Thanks for the response @zekko
 

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OK, bye ... at least that's what I would say.

Sounds like a sh!t test to me. Agree and amplify, maybe?
That was a rude remark she just made. Why keep supplicating for her attention by playing the circus monkey role? :rolleyes:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Don't deal with or ruminate on things that girls who dont really show u interest or treat u like u want say or do. Its pointless. Just by giving it any mind, you're already takin an L..
 

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You mean you approach a girl, hit on her/show some intent, and she looks disgusted and tells you that you are too old?

There's all kinds of PUA theory you could implement, but it's all just marketing/theoretical BS tbh; Most common advice is to consider it a 'test' and then agree and amplify - 'yeah, i'm old enough to be your grandad. Anyway, lets go out tomorrow' kind of thing.

It doesn't work though lol.

Not everything is a 'test'. (in fact, girls 'test' you way way less than PUA's want you to believe! They often don't want to risk losing you if they are actually attracted!) I've heard deluded PUA's say everything is a test to the point there's nothing a girl could say to them that they would take as a 'no'. They'd consider a restraining order a 'sh1t test'

If a girl isn't into you (she thinks you are too old and ugly or whatever e.g she's simply not sexually ATTRACTED to you or interested in that way) then there's nothing you can do about that.

Say goodbye and Move on to the next girl.

This really isn't a game of 'skill' as such. Even the best PUA's can't negotiate attraction and turn 'no's into 'yes's', as we can see from infields.
It's a numbers game.
Choose your battles
 
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I do cold approach and day/night game and I get the you're too old periodically. It's weird. Some girls like experienced, mature men, for others it's some kind of moral sin, they look at you as if you're perverse. It's one of those Ls you'll have to get used to as you get older, it seems.
 

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At my age I don't get it very often, because these days my target demographic are themselves at least in their 30s.....

I have however replied to that with something along the lines of... "Your loss..... ask a friend who's had a guy who knows what he's doing".... and just walk away.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey everybody, I'm lookin for responses to this sentiment. It's weird I can't find posts about this! I imagine they're here, but can't findem. I'd appreciate responses, or links to any previous posts made about this. Thanks
OK. Sounds like just a general lack of interest. Find someone interested. If they thought you were hot be assured your age wouldn't matter. Especially since many women like older men.
 

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Hey boys, just a clarifier here. I'm wantin to know how to overcome this objection, in general. No girl has said this to me.

How do you overcome a ST based on being older?
 
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Well ya I imagine this is a real common stumblin block for people in the "Mature Man" section.
I think it depends on just how old you are. If you're my age (north of 60), yeah it might be a little gross lol. But if you're in your 30s, it's just nonsense. Even in your 40s, no matter what the girl says, if she's attracted to you, your age doesn't matter. You think she'd pass up a date with Leonardo DiCaprio just because he's 48? And he isn't even in shape.

But if she's not attracted to you, there isn't much you can do. The main thing to do, if you're wanting to push past her objection, is to be unfazed by her comment, don't let it shake you, and don't appear to be affected by it. If anything, be amused by it. If you're looking for a specific line or something, someone else will have to give you one, because IMO these PUA lines always look stupid on paper.
 

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She flat out insulted with you the "gross" comment.

Even if you playfully turn it around (and/or act unphased) and she later finds that you're a cool guy that didn't deserve such an insult, you are still at high risk for friendzone.

A lot of PUA techniques are based on keeping the conversation/interaction going (at all cost) even when there is little to no attraction.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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