"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your Attention Please

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@BluePhoenix--

yeah this is a tough one. I don't know how many women who are in committed relationships literally ignore other men, especially at the office. I guess it happens. Maybe flirting has a wider definition these days.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Unprez said:
i guess this goes in hand wiht the philosophies of a dj to never give a woman too much attention....let her crave it from you
If you totally neglect her...she will get it from somebody else.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
The reason I'm putting this out is because there needs to be a distinction between women's need for attention and women who overtly call attention to this need. These are the AWs. In most instances, a true AW is often a peer clutch outcast herself who's attempting to outdo her former peer group, even when this group gets extrapolated to "all women" in her adolescence and young adulthood.

Women on whole don't like an ostentatious, overt play for attention by either sex, but doubly so for their own.
This is the reason I requested this thread to be "unlocked" (or re-posted). Men MUST understand the quote above.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
However, most importantly, Men need to understand the value of their own attention and how women use it for affirmation. This dynamic is the underpinning for a host of misunderstandings guys fall prey to. The guy stuck in the LJBF hole needs to know why his attention, while devalued, is still needed by his new "friend".
BINGO! BINGO!
 

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@BluePhoenix--

yeah this is a tough one. I don't know how many women who are in committed relationships literally ignore other men, especially at the office. I guess it happens. Maybe flirting has a wider definition these days.
Some women do ignore other men...it is called the "Blitz State" I talked about several days ago. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=119284&page=2 see post #21.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Interesting. Well I have known girls who have frozen me out and I didn't think they liked me, refused to look at me or talk to me, must have been the blitz state because eventually I can't get rid of them and they tell me they're leaving their bf. Well that happened with one girl at least.

Thanks for the link.
 

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Interesting. Well I have known girls who have frozen me out and I didn't think they liked me, refused to look at me or talk to me, must have been the blitz state because eventually I can't get rid of them and they tell me they're leaving their bf. Well that happened with one girl at least.

Thanks for the link.
The blitz state is when a woman is in a relationship and she does not have eyes for another man. And trust me...it is VIRTUALLY impossible to get this woman interested in ANOTHER man while she is in the relationship.


It takes some work...but it is a matter of putting the foundation early in the relationship (the chemical reaction of attraction and desire has to be there too). After that...it is a matter of keeping a DJ lifestyle so things get easier.
 

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The blitz state is when a woman is in a relationship and she does not have eyes for another man. And trust me...it is VIRTUALLY impossible to get this woman interested in ANOTHER man while she is in the relationship.
except for the branch swingers.
 

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except for the branch swingers.
Every woman of quality (if she is NOT married or engaged or living with someone) is capable of branch swing to what she perceives as a CONSIDERABLY better man.

That's why I never disqualify from considering a "quality" woman for a relationship...even if she has a boyfriend.

The only way I would disqualify a "quality" woman for a relationship with me is if

1- She already lives with a man
2- She is engaged to a man
3- She is already married
4- She cheats on her boyfriend with me (which would make her a "non-quality" woman)

But if she dumps her boyfriend and later ends up with me...I have NO issues with that.
 

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Narcissistic Supply is often the term used to describe this blatant need of external approval. It´s how a girl sees her reflection, which happens through the people around her. Your function is to be her mirror.

*The Adrenaline Junkie: http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/npd/99584
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Well You live and learn....This was a very interesting site and in general bears out my own observations which I had never rationalised before...Well Done...
 
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